Hi Tristan,

For the use-cases you describe it seems like writing a custom scope,
not custom providers, may be the right way to implement what you want.

Cheers,
--Jason.

On Apr 8, 1:09 am, Tristan de Inés <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi Fred, Jayr, thanks for your answers.
>
> I see. I watched the google-guice presentation on YouTube and I guess I read
> too much into the "guice eliminates the need for factories" parts. I thought
> that perhaps there was some kind of command pattern for injectors somewhere
> that I was overlooking.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:54 PM, jMotta <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Complementing what Fred said,
>
> > You can still use your factories while using Guice, they dont exclude each
> > other. Using Guice in addition with your factories you'll add inversion of
> > control to your software, and the consequences of it you already know.
>
> > These desired side-effects caused by you factories can still be used
> > throughhttp://code.google.com/p/google-guice/wiki/ProviderBindingsand
> > you can bound the implementations provided by this class to a given
> > interface inside your module. And if you want to change the implementation
> > in the future you must just change the code of the provider or the provider
> > itself. :)
>
> > Atenciosamente,
>
> > *Jayr Motta*
> > Software Developer
> > *
> > *
> > I'm  on 
> > BlackBeltFactory.com<http://www.blackbeltfactory.com/ui#%21User/jmotta/ref=jmotta>
> > !
>
> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Fred Faber <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> The Factory that you describe is a domain-level entity, in that it is
> >> performing more work than simply object instantiation.
>
> >> You may retain use of such factories and incorporate Guice:  the two are
> >> certainly not mutually exclusive.
>
> >> The merge step is to ensure you use Guice and not "new" when your factory
> >> creates instance of  a class.  To do this, inject a Provider<> into your
> >> Factory, or otherwise return an injected instance.
>
> >> Fred
>
> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Tristan de Inés <
> >> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> Hi there,
>
> >>> I believe that one of the main uses of factories besides dependency
> >>> management, decoupling the interface from the implementation, and
> >>> instance configuration is running "extra code" whenever a new instance
> >>> is requested. What if I want to notify listeners, make sure all new
> >>> instances are put into a certain collection, have some log output,
> >>> etc, on every instance request to a factory? "Side effects" like these
> >>> are easily accomplished inside factory methods. I see what google-
> >>> guice does for me, but I may be overlooking something, because I'm not
> >>> sure how I would go about replacing my factory-heavy dependency
> >>> management with google-guice without sacrificing the flexibility of
> >>> these "side-effects" in my factory methods.
>
> >>> Is this a conscious limitation of google-guice or a design issue on my
> >>> part? Input appreciated.
>
> >>> Regards
>
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