Sure, go for it :)

On 24 Jul 2013, at 21:48, Christian Gruber wrote:

> So… in conclusion… 4.0-BETA this weekend?
> 
> c.
> 
> On 24 Jul 2013, at 9:51, Sam Berlin wrote:
> 
>> Yup, agreed. If it turns out things are taking longer than expected, we'll
>> just ship without those new things.
>> On Jul 24, 2013 12:08 PM, "Stuart McCulloch" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, just wanted to make sure it wasn't going to take months to iron out
>>> any new API changes.
>>> 
>>> HEAD has been stable for a while and it would be good to get a non-beta
>>> release into people's hands asap.
>>> 
>>> On 24 Jul 2013, at 01:22, Sam Berlin wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't expect pending 4.0 changes to take much longer.  There's also some
>>> very subtle changes already in HEAD that might cause problems if people
>>> update without thinking, such as considering bindings with annotations w/
>>> all default params to have TheAnnotation.class equal to @TheAnnotation.
>>> (I'll find the CL, which has a better explanation, when I get to a real
>>> computer... On phone now. )
>>> 
>>> I'll take a look through, though, and see what other things are in there.
>>> 
>>> sam
>>> On Jul 23, 2013 8:14 PM, "Stuart McCulloch" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 24 Jul 2013, at 01:08, Christian Gruber wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'll target a release of 4.0-BETA (alpha?) for this weekend.
>>>> 
>>>> Will this be what's in master at the moment? Because if so then I'd
>>>> prefer just push it out as 3.1 right now before any breaking API changes.
>>>> 
>>>> Otherwise users wouldn't have a stable build to jump to until we finish
>>>> the API changes for 4.0.
>>>> 
>>>>> c.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 23 Jul 2013, at 16:58, Sam Berlin wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've been meaning to add Injector.getAllElements() for quite a while
>>>> now.
>>>>>> Maybe this will push me to finally do it if we have an imminent
>>>>>> new-version-number release..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Christian Gruber <[email protected]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Heh, Eric. Let's get it out there for you. :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'll defer to Sam on the numbering.  I think he has a better picture
>>>> of
>>>>>>> the full scope of change in head, having written the vast bulk of it.
>>>> :D
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That said, while we're doing a 4.0, are there any API-incompatible
>>>> changes
>>>>>>> we are interested in making beyond your SPI fix, Sam?  I can't see
>>>> anything
>>>>>>> crucial to fix with a breaking change, but now would be the time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Christian.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 23 Jul 2013, at 15:48, Eric Tschetter wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Don't rush a release just for me and this one feature :).  If you
>>>> really
>>>>>>>> want to use this as an excuse to make one happen though, by all
>>>> means, use
>>>>>>>> it ;).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --Eric
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Sam Berlin <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'd lean towards a 4.0-beta, and then we can roll in these upcoming
>>>>>>>>> changes too. I'm hoping we can get this particular debugging-change
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> change Element.getSource to return a new SPI type (ElementSource)
>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>> of 'Object'.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> sam
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Christian Gruber <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Le sigh.  I'm working on six things.  We can roll a release if we
>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>> we have everything we want in it right now. Or if not, I can roll
>>>> 3.1
>>>>>>>>>> beta
>>>>>>>>>> (if we are agreed on 3.1 as the version).
>>>>>>>>>> c.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Jul 2013, at 15:45, Sam Berlin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I think Christian's working on it?  We also have a few awesome
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> in-the-works
>>>>>>>>>>> changes here that will make debugging a helluva lot easier
>>>> (including
>>>>>>>>>>> capturing the chain of Modules involved with each binding, as
>>>> well as
>>>>>>>>>>> complete stack traces per binding).
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Eric Tschetter <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there an rc or other semi-stable (and hopefully tagged
>>>> somewhere)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>> of guice with that in maven central?  If so I'll be more than
>>>> happy to
>>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>> it out.  If not, I can wait.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I already adjusted the code to work with the explicit bindings
>>>> and it
>>>>>>>>>>>> turned out it required a *lot* fewer than I thought it would.
>>>> Would
>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer just the requireAtInject, but it's easy to relax the
>>>>>>>>>>>> restriction
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the future once that is released.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --Eric
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Stuart McCulloch <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Jul 2013, at 22:48, Christian Gruber wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wait… didn't we add requireAtInjectOnConstructors(****) as a
>>>> halfway
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between full JIT and requireExplicitBindings()?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the reminder - I was going by the online javadoc
>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the latest additions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see it here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://google-guice.**googleco**de.com/git/core/src/**<
>>>> http://googlecode.com/git/core/src/**>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> com/google/inject/Binder.java<**http://google-guice.**
>>>>>>>>>>>>> googlecode.com/git/core/src/**com/google/inject/Binder.java<
>>>> http://google-guice.googlecode.com/git/core/src/com/google/inject/Binder.java
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're building your own snapshot of Guice, then you should
>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access to it.  If not, it should be out shortly when we roll a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidate. But please do try it out by rolling a local copy of
>>>> guice
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> head.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> c.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Jul 2013, at 14:42, Stuart McCulloch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Jul 2013, at 22:28, Eric Tschetter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick response!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Binder.****requireExplicitBindings() is causing it to fail on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that has an @Inject annotation on it.  I was
>>>> hoping to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disable the injection of things without the annotation, but I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> guessing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's not possible?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes with requireExplicitBindings you will have to be more
>>>> verbose,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even down to binding the actual implementation classes as
>>>> follows:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bind( MyComponentImpl.class );
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Inject just declares a dependency on something, rather than
>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binding that can provide something, so this is working as
>>>> designed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If that's the case, that's fine, I can deal with being even
>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explicit and requiring a bind for everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Stuart McCulloch <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Jul 2013, at 22:13, Eric Tschetter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm looking for a way to disable JIT bindings in Guice.
>>>> Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/****google-guice/issues/detail?id=**
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **342<
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/**google-guice/issues/detail?id=**342>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>> http://code.google.com/**p/google-guice/issues/detail?**id=342<
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=342>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For me, but it looks like r1141 referenced in there is a
>>>> broken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now (probably switched source control systems and the links
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure how to search for the old commit...).  I also
>>>> don't know
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> an InjectorBuilder is (can't find the class in the current
>>>> code, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>>>> guessing it's something that existed in 2009 and doesn't
>>>> anymore).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing this functionality was maintained, but am
>>>> wondering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to enable it.  Basically I want to disable any injection
>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not either
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (a) bound in a module or (b)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of an object with an @Inject binding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The equivalent git hash is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/****google-guice/source/detail?r=****<
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/**google-guice/source/detail?r=**>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 888a264bdee08c82cccd9dcc94a8a4****ac98912bad<http://code.**
>>>>>>>>>>>>> google.com/p/google-guice/**source/detail?r=**
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 888a264bdee08c82cccd9dcc94a8a4**ac98912bad<
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/source/detail?r=888a264bdee08c82cccd9dcc94a8a4ac98912bad
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since then the requireExplicitBindings option was moved to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Binder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> API:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://google-guice.**googleco**de.com/git/javadoc/**<
>>>> http://googlecode.com/git/javadoc/**>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> com/google/inject/Binder.html#****requireExplicitBindings()<ht**
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tp://google-guice.googlecode.**com/git/javadoc/com/google/**
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inject/Binder.html#**requireExplicitBindings()<
>>>> http://google-guice.googlecode.com/git/javadoc/com/google/inject/Binder.html#requireExplicitBindings()
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Eric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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