Then happily we are all in agreement:  In fact there IS an "http
method of accessing the routing engine," and it is legal to use it.
But driving that by an automated process is not.  (And none of this
really has anything to do with the API.  It properly belongs in the
Google Maps Help Group.)


On Sep 10, 1:53 pm, "Barry Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> John specially said
>
>
>
> >I think you'll find that doing a routing query in this manner will
> >subject your IP to being suspended quite quickly
> then
> >Currently, there is no http method of accessing the routine engine.
>
> in reply to
>
> >I am trying to build an application on Java that needs to keep records
> >of a list of address and distance between each pair. I would like to
> >know if I can query Google Map and get distance for each route in the
> >direction from kml in a single http request.
>
> which seems to me very specific about automated access. Its true http
> can be used by a human too (via a browser), but that was not being
> dicussed in this thread.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 7:45 PM, boomerbubba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > With respect and some annoyance, it was not me who first generalized
> > the topic of this thread to cover all such http access to Google
> > Maps.  Once that occurred, I simply was trying to clarify the record.
> > As I said in my first comment, I have posted this question over in the
> > other group where it is more apropos.  Thank you for your opinion on
> > the substantive issue nevertheless.
>
> > On Sep 10, 1:35 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >> On Sep 10, 11:28 am, boomerbubba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> > Well, for my purposes, I did not access the http interface via a
> >> > script or webcrawler, etc.  (And John Coryat's comments above
> >> > mentioned no such thing, either.  He said more generally and flatly
> >> > that such http acces is "not allowed" and there is no http interface
> >> > to get such directions.)
>
> >> > To clarify, unlike the original poster, who does seem to be working on
> >> > an automated process to glean data for a database, I am submitting the
> >> > URL in an interactive test.  I either paste the URL into my browser's
> >> > address bar, or click on a link I have created.  (I also omit the
> >> > output=kml qualifer from the URL, because I just want to render the
> >> > map and directions in Google Maps.)
>
> >> > See my own simple example here:
>
> >> >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=from:+30.374239,-97.633008+to:+30.38004...
>
> >> > John seems to believe that just submitting such http requests will get
> >> > someone's IP banned from Google Maps, and I am questioning that.
>
> >> > Perhaps this is undocumented functionality.   (I didn't even know
> >> > about the to: and from: syntax until I read this original post
> >> > above.)  But I see nothing that makes it illegal per se.
>
> >> I don't think there is any problem with your example (throwing a
> >> request to google maps).  Perhaps you shouldn't hijack threads...
>
> >> > On Sep 10, 12:54 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > wrote:
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> >> > > On Sep 10, 10:48 am, boomerbubba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I have 
> >> > > looked at the Terms and Conditions of Google Maps and can find
> >> > > > nothing that seems to prohibits this usage.
>
> >> > > Did you read this section?http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS
> >> > > 5.3 You agree not to access (or attempt to access) any of the
> >> > > Services
> >> > > by any means other than through the interface that is provided by
> >> > > Google, unless you have been specifically allowed to do so in a
> >> > > separate agreement with Google. You specifically agree not to access
> >> > > (or attempt to access) any of the Services through any automated
> >> > > means
> >> > > (including use of scripts or web crawlers) and shall ensure that you
> >> > > comply with the instructions set out in any robots.txt file present
> >> > > on
> >> > > the Services.
>
> >> > > > As for feasibility, I
> >> > > > have tried it interactively in a URL querying directions for 3
> >> > > > sequential locations, and it seems to work fine.  Perhaps there is a
> >> > > > limit somewhere in the number of locations or the total length of the
> >> > > > URL string.
>
> >> > > > I have made an inquiry about this in the Google Maps Help Group, 
> >> > > > where
> >> > > > this topic properly belongs since it is not API-related.  But I just
> >> > > > want to post this for the record here because of the comments above.
>
> >> > > > On Sep 9, 5:30 pm, "Barry Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > Please see the API documentation, if you do intend to stick within 
> >> > > > > the 
> >> > > > > API:http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/services.html#Driving_...
> >> > > > > See alsohttp://code.google.com/apis/maps/terms.html
>
> >> > > > > As for quering Google Maps directly, please see their own 
> >> > > > > ToUhttp://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/help/terms_local.html
>
> >> > > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Zhitao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > Hi everyone,
>
> >> > > > > > I am trying to build an application on Java that needs to keep 
> >> > > > > > records
> >> > > > > > of a list of address and distance between each pair. I would 
> >> > > > > > like to
> >> > > > > > know if I can query Google Map and get distance for each route 
> >> > > > > > in the
> >> > > > > > direction from kml in a single http request.
>
> >> > > > > > For example:
> >> > > > > >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=from:+lga+to:+jfk+to:+isp&output=kml
>
> >> > > > > > The output kml has only information of the first part (lga to 
> >> > > > > > jfk),
> >> > > > > > but no information of second part.
>
> >> > > > > > I wonder if I can get all information in kml in one query.
>
> >> > > > > > Thanks
>
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