Thanks for this info! I tried many Geocoders listed on
http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Maps-API/web/resources-non-google-geocoders,
but none of them seem to work for me. This is for a project located in
Canada, so already the set of Geocoders that can be used is reduced to
the ones providing data for Canada. Many links on that page refer to
Geocoding pages using Yahoo!'s geocoder, but yahoo only allows to use
its geocoding service if it to use the data in conjuction with Yahoo
Maps; we want to use Google Maps. geocoder.ibegin.com, which is listed
on that page, seemed to offer an interesting solution, however it
could not locate my place properly (right street, but wrong city!).

We have a database containing Latitudes and Longitudes for all postal
codes in Canada, and I can use that. However, full addresses
geolocalization gives better results, especially for remote places
where postal codes cover a large area.

We have an interface on our Intranet that allows us to enter new
locations in the database driving our web site. What I would like
would be to have the possibility to geocode a location when that place
is saved in our database, and to save the latitude and longitude at
the same time. It would be easy to do this we Google's geocoder, but I
am not sure whether this would infringe its terms of use. I would
really appreciate getting feedback from Google about this.

JF

On Oct 22, 11:36 am, mapperzUK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> JF as noted by Pamela Fox in the Tutorial -'Using PHP/MySQL with
> Google Maps'
>
> "Note: This tutorial uses location data that already have latitude and
> longitude information needed to plot corresponding markers. If you're
> trying to use your own data that don't yet have that information, use
> a batch geocoding service to convert the addresses into latitudes/
> longitudes. Some sites make the mistake of geocoding addresses each
> time a page loads, but doing so will result in slower page loads and
> unnecessary repeat geocodes. It's always better to hardcode the
> latitude/longitude information when possible. This link contains a
> good list of 
> geocoders:http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Maps-API/web/resources-non-goog...
> "
>
> http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=65622
>
> so if you pre-geocode your 15,000 locations into a database then you
> will achieve your option 2.
>
> (but never trust a geocoder - Mike 
> Williams)http://markmail.org/message/ryz24bm7n66ew6b5
>
> Mapperzhttp://mapperz.blogspot.com/
>
> On Oct 22, 4:17 pm, JF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have the following problem. I am working on a web site backed by a
> > database containing around 15 000 locations. These locations can be
> > displayed on maps on the web site. On these maps, other surrounding
> > locations should also be displayed. In the end, around 50 locations
> > could be displayed on a single map with its main point of interest. So
> > before displaying the map, around 50 locations will need to be
> > geocoded in order to position them on the map. The geocoding requests
> > would be issued by the server, which seems to be a problem. Imagine
> > that 10 people are surfing the site and viewing maps at the same time,
> > it would mean that the server would need to geocode 500 locations in a
> > short amount of time. This is a problem, since Google's geocoding
> > servers stop answering when too many request are coming from the same
> > location all at once.
>
> > I see two solutions:
>
> > 1) The geocoding should be done on the client side. However, in most
> > Google Map examples, the latitudes and longitudes are provided by the
> > server. Is there somewhere a good example in which latitudes and
> > longitudes are fetched by the client just before displaying the map?
>
> > I see a drawback with this technique though. It does not reduce the
> > load on Google's geocoding servers.
>
> > 2) A better technique would be to cache the geocoding data (latitudes
> > and longitudes) for the 15 000 locations on the server beforehand.
> > This appears to me as being much cleaner, and it removes some burden
> > from Google's geocoding servers. What is the point of geocoding the
> > same locations multiple times anyway?
>
> > However, there seem to be a legal issue with this second technique. 
> > Onhttp://maps.google.com/help/terms_maps.html, one can read the
> > following:
>
> > <blockquote>Also, you may not use Google Maps in a manner which gives
> > you or any other person access to mass downloads or bulk feeds of
> > numerical latitude and longitude coordinates.</blockquote>
>
> > This appears to make the second solution illegal, which is really too
> > bad. I would like to get a confirmation of this though from Google
> > staff.
>
> > Cheers!
>
> > JF
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