On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:01 PM, warden [Andrew Leach - Maps API Guru]
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> On Nov 13, 2:33 pm, "barryhunter [Maps API Guru]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> At least the thread title how has a clear cut answer: yes. Sure the
>> data is still 'ours', but Google have a clearcut licence to do what
>> they want with it.
>
> I'm not sure that I should just give my geographic data away like
> that. It cost time and money to collate, and it's actually worth
> something (there have been offers for it). While it *could* be ok for
> Google to use it in their search results, I don't think it's on to
> syndicate it.

The syndicate cause is *probably* - a requirement to allow such things
as the ajax-search api which syndicates content to third party sites.
(but I thought that didnt give any rights to the owner of said site,
such a licence by Google is not required!)

The biggest issue and one that I hope can be clarified is under this
new Terms there is no opt out to sharing your data.

But even better would be a move to being able to control your data
licences of your own choosing (such as Creative Commons - or the
upcoming geodata licences) - then Google wouldnt need a catch all.

I prefered the old style Google, which indexed and syndicated what it
could get away with - rather than effectivly demanding a licence to do
so. I suppose its also an offshoot of Google being taking to court
over copyright infingement, so the desire to sneak in a few clauses
into ToUs can make it 'legal'

>
> The OS issue is related, but even while that is unresolved, Google can
> appropriate and syndicate geographic data which is not OS-derived. And
> *that* data will have cost far more to collate.
>
> The answer is definitely Yes. Google are trying to steal our data.

I've posted some more thoughts on my Blog
http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/2008/11/13/use-google-maps-api-to-display-data-now-powned/


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> Andrew
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Barry

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