"I think the carrier might be seeing the unsafe characters in the
Styled url (such as the pipe | character) and then encoding the url,
which has the effect of double encoding the # (already encoded as
%23,
which would then become %2523)"

...that makes perfect sense, and that is no doubt the source of the
problem exactly. But who to send it to: carrier or Google?

On Aug 22, 10:39 am, Sefu <[email protected]> wrote:
> Boy, that may have seemed arrogant of me - was just poking fun at the
> fact that we saw the same thing at the same time. I'd still be lost in
> the details were it not for your insight - thanks a million!
>
> That problem out of the way, the lack of a "#" character causes other
> minor problems elsewhere - transit lines, for example, refuse to be
> anything but red when there is a "hue" option present - I even tried
> indicating "blue" or "orange" (which worked in earlier experiments),
> but rail lines remain stubbornly bright red - I think this concerns
> any hue (hex or named) beginning with an alphabetical character (eg
> "orange" or "ff9900").
>
> In all, would you think this a problem worthy of announcing to Google,
> or should I forward it to my carrier? I am certain that the problem
> was the same across three carriers here (SFR, Orange, Virgin) -
> perhaps they all are using the same 3g network distributor.
>
> Thanks again, Cheers,
>
> Sefu.
>
> On Aug 22, 9:45 am, Sefu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks, William - Great minds think alike, it seems ; )
>
> > On Aug 22, 9:43 am, Sefu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Om(f)g.
>
> > > I found it. A simple, stupid error that still may/may not have
> > > something to do with my carrier.
>
> > > I noticed that in your custom map, William, you used only a single
> > > 'visible' style option - so I reduced my styles to a single (multiple
> > > option) one and started eliminating the options one by one. When I
> > > eliminated the "hue" option the map started working - so I replaced
> > > it, but this time eliminating the "#" symbol from the hex colour code.
> > > The map started working. I then replaced all my styles, but removed
> > > the "#" from all of them - and the map still worked.
>
> > > This is odd because the "#" is present in the hue colour code in both
> > > the Google Maps v3 documentation and the Styled Map Wizard (http://
> > > gmaps-samples-v3.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/styledmaps/wizard/
> > > index.html)... but again, this "#" problem may only concern my
> > > carrier.
>
> > > One side effect - when I eliminated the "#", all my orange hues
> > > changed to red... and there may be some other colour changes too.
>
> > > On Aug 22, 9:09 am, Sefu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Yet, William, your map is working in my iphone!
>
> > > > All I can do is compare the tile request 
> > > > URL's...http://mt1.google.com/vt/lyr...@130&src=api&hl=en-US&apistyle=s.t:1|p.h:%23ff2200|p.s:50&x=4145&y=2819&z=13&s=Galile
> > > > ... 
> > > > minehttp://mt1.google.com/vt/lyr...@130&src=api&hl=en-US&apistyle=p.v:off...
> > > > ... william's
>
> > > > ...???
>
> > > > When I replace my styles with yours (taken from the page source),
> > > > william, my map will load in iPhone Safari.
>
> > > > (scratching head)
>
> > > > On Aug 22, 8:58 am, Sefu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Er, wow.
>
> > > > > I trunciated my styles progressively until there was only one style
> > > > > left remaining... and the map as a whole STILL refused to load. Yet
> > > > > tiles will load individually:
>
> > > > >http://mt1.google.com/vt/lyr...@130&src=api&hl=en-US&apistyle=s.t:1|p.h:%23ff2200|p.s:50&x=4145&y=2819&z=13&s=Galile
>
> > > > > I then stripped ALL styles, and the map suddenly started loading.
>
> > > > > The only logical source of the problem I can think of is some sort of
> > > > > faulty (outdated) compression algorithm used by France's carriers...
> > > > > individual image requests to a given domain are not compressed, but
> > > > > multiple requests to the same domain are - resulting in corrupted
> > > > > url's. If only the iPhone Safari had the 'Activity' window present in
> > > > > their mac-based app, I could really see what's going on...
>
> > > > > On Aug 22, 8:35 am, Sefu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > There doesn't seem to be any iPhone web debugging app out there....
> > > > > > Your map is working fine, thanks. I'm going to start 'cutting' 
> > > > > > styles
> > > > > > from mine and see what happens.
>
> > > > > > On Aug 22, 8:17 am, William <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Aug 22, 4:06 pm, Sefu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > If I don't find a suitable iPhone webapp debugging tool, the 
> > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > other thing I can do is make a series of progressively 
> > > > > > > > less-stylised
> > > > > > > > maps to find out what the carrier will or will not load.
>
> > > > > > > I don't know any iPhone debugging tools, but the minimal styled
> > > > > > > example I tried before was only administrative features:
>
> > > > > > >http://www.william-map.com/20100822/1/admin.htm
>
> > > > > > > ...

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