Hi
I think that it may be your business model that sucks
Adsense quote $0.05 to $5.00 per 1000 clicks
This would generate between $1.25 and $125 per 1000 clicks excluding
the $31.25      or $3125 generated before the 25000 quota.
If you cannot generate over $0.2 per 1000 clicks you why should Google
subsidise your particular business model

Regards Davie



On Nov 7, 12:59 pm, JD Gauchat <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Rossko. Thanks for the advice. Here is what I know:
>
> I was working on a project that requires Google Maps. Due to its
> characteristics, I estimated the following:
>
> - I would have 5 loads per user in average (possible more considering
> that I can't save static images on my server, not even thumbnails).
> - Since the limit is 25000 loads, my project is limited to 5000 visits
> per day.
> - Concentrating the business on advertisement I can make between $10
> and $15 per day (based on previous experience and websites that are
> already running since several years ago)
>
> Once reaching this level of traffic, the next step for any business is
> investing. The money earned has to be invested in advertisement to
> make the business grow and turn the 5000 visits into millions a day.
> But here is the problem. As soon as I get the numbers over the limit I
> will start loosing money (or if I'm lucky I'll get even). I'll have to
> stop investing in advertisement and my business, for one reason or
> another, will be dead in 5000 visits (no money for me, no money for
> Google). And with that level of income, it's impossible to pay for a
> premium account (and according to the values I saw a premium account
> is too expensive as well, comparing with any cloud service).
>
> Conclusions:
>
> With the current business plan there is a gap. You can't start a
> project that might turn into a big business because you have to be a
> big business since the beginning to be able to afford the services you
> need. It's IMPOSSIBLE to scale. Once you reach a point in which you
> have to start paying your business is frozen because you can't pay for
> the service without loosing money. And if you don't pay, Google don't
> make ANY money.
>
> Google knows the numbers. They have a cloud service and they know the
> low cost of the bandwidth and storage. A static image, for example, is
> no more than 50k, thus 1000 images will be 50 megabytes. The cost of
> bandwidth for 1 gig is $0.13 (maximum), so for 1000 images we are
> talking about $0.0065 (it's not even a cent). You can't turn this into
> $4 without killing thousands of projects that could become big
> business and bring millions of dollars to Google.
>
> I think I don't need to explain more, Google has ALL the numbers they
> need to understand this.
>
> Thanks for reading
> JD
>
> On Nov 7, 8:40 am, Rossko <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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>
> > > Hope you can come up with something realistic...
>
> > Clearly Google think they already have, and it is already in place.
>
> > One way to encourage re-think is to provide a concrete alternative.
> > We don't have access to the numbers (users, hits, etc.) to see how a
> > suggestion pans out, but if a suggestion is made it should be easy
> > enough for Google to do sums.
> > It might be most effective to present such a suggestion with an
> > estimate of the results, compared to the status quo.
>
> > Most likely the wrong Google folk are reading this forum, but if the
> > message is more persuasive than "poor me" and more like "benefits to
> > Google", I'm sure it would get passed upwards.

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