Note I don't really consider the starting point "from" being Spanish being a real bug. Much rather I was just trying to suggest an improvement to the system.
Also, I forgot to comment on the location of the user for the default "to" language. For me personally I would prefer not :) I am in Hong Kong but can't read much chinese (yet). To be fair though am sure it would be useful to most. But I feel the alternatives I presented would serve most (+ my special case). Regards Ben. 2008/9/6 Behrang Dadsetan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think the language "to" should be derived either: > - by the user settings (that are saved by cookies in some way or another) > - the version of the google used (if I am using google in english - > google.com - it should be in english, if I am using google.com.hk it > should be in Chinese?) > > What I would also like is that the language "from" is simply set to > Automatic. This was my original query. > > I see why you might want to swap, but at the same time I feel the > language "from" should be derivable by the text being translated > anyway (so set to automatic). > > I understand Zabeus proposed a valid way around the problematic, but > frankly I will not use it. If it's about using bookmarks I might as > well use some other tool that might be better adapted anyway. I use > google out of convenience not for the quality of the translation. > > Thanks! > Ben. > > 2008/9/5 Andrew_E2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> Thank you Zabeus >> >> This is exactly what I needed to know. It frustrates me no end that >> it defaults to Spanish->English. >> >> Saying that, I'm going to have to have one set up for Ja->En and one >> for En->Ja. Couldn't google add a "swap" button so you can them >> translate in reverse? >> >> Also, it's in our google account what our interface language selection >> is, so it would be reasonable (and very easy) to default to this and >> the language of the location you are in (again, easy!), with the swap >> button there. So, if I was in France and went to google translate it >> would default to English -> French (Swap?) >> >> Does anyone else this this would be useful? >> >> Andrew >> >> On Sep 4, 7:56 pm, Zabeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I can't address your question about why the default is Spanish->English, >>> but have a suggestion that might help. Update your bookmark >>> >>> to Google translate by adding "langpair=auto|en" to the URL, like >>> this: >>> ->http://translate.google.com/translate_t?langpair=auto|en >>> This will make the defaults for both website and text translation >>> Default->English. You can set the "langpair" field to any combination >>> of language codes too. I use Translate for translating Japanese to >>> English, and have a bookmark buttons on my Firefox bookmark bar for >>> quick, convenient JA->EN translation. >>> >>> Z. >>> >>> On Aug 29, 11:41 pm, Behrang Dadsetan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> > Dear Google Translate Group members, >>> >>> > I use Google translate everytime I need a quick translation from >>> > Chinese to English. Mostly I use the textbox to translate some text >>> > rather than a whole web page. What I describe here relates to both >>> > text translation and web site translation. >>> >>> > When I visit translate.google.com it automatically forwards me >>> > tohttp://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en# >>> > This could be due to my language preferences set-up in the browser or >>> > cookies set-up by iGoogle or other that know I prefer to see english. >>> > That's just fine. >>> >>> > When I look at the drop-downs just below the textbox and the URL >>> > text fields, I see invariably: >>> > "Spanish" => "English" >>> >>> > Why "Spanish"? I am sure plenty of people would need such >>> > translations, but there are plenty more people who would need to >>> > translate from other languages. >>> >>> > I wonder why you would not use "Detect language" >> "English"? >>> >>> > Is the Auto-detect not clever enough to figure out when the >>> > translation source is spanish? I am sure it is a difficult process and >>> > more an art than a science, but I love it so much when Google gets the >>> > right defaults for me, I wish it could do so on this one too :) >>> >>> > An alternative would be for google to use one of its dozens of >>> > cookies to track what language I tend to translate from. Would that >>> > not be a better solution than forcing me to switch away from Spanish >>> > every single time I use the translate tool? >>> >>> > Many thanks! >>> > Behrang Dadsetan >> >> >> >> > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Translate" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-translate?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
