Ray:

I reviewed Chronoscope (old version) and your offering (Timescope /
Timefire?) ... both look really good.
Also, several references to "viz guy" references Chronoscope and the
implementation w.r.t. Google's Annotated Time Line appears very
similar minus a few hooks.
W.r.t. licensing, Chronoscope is LGPL and Timescope / Timefire has
other licensing costs. In this economy, open source / "free to host"
would be nice.
On an unrelated note, the charts on Timescope / Timefire do not appear
to work at http://timefire.com/showcase/ on IE7

Seems like these are being hosted at ...
Chronoscope = http://api.timepedia.org/widget/chronoscope.js
Google's Visualization = http://www.google.com/jsapi

My concern is that if these annotated time charts are provided as a
contribution over Google's default offering and hosted by multiple
domains, performance and reliability may also be questionable due to
network latency. You did mention that it can be run as a standalone
widget and not dependent on GViz ... but is this downloaded and run on
the client or hosted?

See my question in the original posting above.

Thanks!

- Rohit


On Feb 3, 1:12 pm, Ray Cromwell <[email protected]> wrote:
> You might be interested in Timescope (see here for 
> screencast,http://timefire.comorhttp://timefire.com/showcase/for a live demo)
> Timescope is a superset of Google Annotated Timeline, it provides six
> different marker types:
>
> 1) pushpins (ala Google Maps)
> 2) arbitrary image icons (ala Google Maps)
> 3) callout markers
> 4) axis markers (ala Google Finance, Yahoo Finance)
> 5) domain and range markets (e.g. indicate recessions  or normal trading 
> ranges)
>
> You can style anything through a CSS-lookalike language called GSS
> (Graph Style Sheets). It has the ability to render lines, step charts,
> bar charts, candlesticks, and bubble charts (ala Google Motion Chart).
> It handles dataset sizes over tens of thousands of points. The legend
> and date axes support granularity down to microseconds up to
> millennia, numbers can be formatted via custom format strings or
> callbacks, datasets can be mutated inplace without redrawing the whole
> chart. Lots of other stuff too, like runs on android as a native app,
> supports chart-server rendering, can be programmed with zero-JS
> (microformat TABLE + GSS), runs as GViz but can also run as standalone
> widget, or as google gadget.
>
> We are looking for beta users, just drop me an email if you're
> interested. There is already an old version onhttp://timepedia.org.
>
> -Ray
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:57 PM, googelybear <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I totally agree with you guys - more customizability is the way to go.
> > Currently a) would be great for me: old-school balloon tips (as on
> > google maps - why did you do it differently in the timeline?) and a
> > traditional legend on the right side.
>
> > Btw. how can you turn off the  internally rendered legend? I know that
> > you can hide the annotaitons but I didn't find a way to remove the
> > legend (and do it my own way).
>
> > I don't know about the corporation between the google finance and the
> > visualizations team but there are definitely some features that would
> > make a nice addition to the AnnotatedTimeline (e.g. arbitrary markers
> > not related to a data series - but I already posted this in another
> > thread).
>
> > On 3 Feb., 20:28, Grant Lucas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I particularly am interested in your enhancement C. I would also like
> >> to be able to customize more than just the  colours of the lines. I'd
> >> like to have control over every colour displayed so it matches our
> >> applicatoin much better.
>
> >> On Feb 3, 1:42 pm, rohitc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > First off, the annotated time line is a great component and something
> >> > folks have wanted for a long time.
>
> >> > Have a quick question and a couple of feature requests that I thought
> >> > I'd cram into a single posting :)
>
> >> > Question:
>
> >> > Are releases of new versions of this component expected to be backward
> >> > compatible?
> >> > Is it possible to download and host all needed components locally from
> >> > our server or do you expect us to cross reference Google's domain to
> >> > download JS, CSS, SWF files i.e. indirectly 
> >> > viahttp://www.google.com/jsapi
> >> > ? I noticed that there was a mix of http and https references which
> >> > popup in IE as warnings that I was hoping to avoid.
>
> >> > Feature / enhancement requests:
>
> >> > a. The legend in its present form isn't very intuitive/standard w.r.t.
> >> > trends as seen in most libraries. This is especially obvious when you
> >> > have a large number of series (with large labels) plotted
> >> > simultaneously. Good news is that you folks provide an option to turn
> >> > off the internally rendered legend. The concept is great in that
> >> > you'll have combined the legend and datapoint tooltips into a single
> >> > entity thereby saving on real estate. However, I think a lot of people
> >> > prefer the old fashioned legend on the right (which could even be
> >> > custom rendered outside the annotated time line component) and data
> >> > points as a tooltip (with custom html formatting) via a hover over the
> >> > period units.
>
> >> > b. Is it possible to customize the series data points when
> >> > highlighted? As of now, they're small dots which aren't really visible
> >> > when you increase the line thickness. Suggestion - a nice
> >> > visualization of the onhover datapoints is a colored hollow circle.
>
> >> > c. Provide more options to customize; e.g. the black border is too
> >> > dark. The cyan background in the timeline adjuster section at the
> >> > bottom doesn't mix well with our application palette.
>
> >> > d. Provide the ability to scale the time line to a higher level of
> >> > granularity. e.g. weeks, months, years (with corresponding support in
> >> > the datatable). e.g. if I want to trend last 12 months of data, I'd
> >> > like to see 12 points corresponding to 12 months - not 365 points
> >> > corresponding to the number of days in the 12 months.
>
> >> > e. Provide an attached carousel control (docked at the top or bottom)
> >> > to show annotations.
> >> > e.g.http://billwscott.com/carousel/carousel_html_static_multiple.htmlhttp......-
> >> >  Hide quoted text -
>
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