Hi Smloa,
I could debug a C++ app right now even though I don't know how to code in
C++. I am currently studying a Bachelor of Information Systems in New
Zealand, and it is my intentions to come and work for Google as a Programmer
when I leave MIT (New Zealand). I am only 17 so I have a little while to go
yet, however I still need to have 3 years experience programming and one of
the languages you need to know for Google is C++ (or C, forgot which). And
since people want me to code in C++ I think that it would be in my best
interests to do so as well, it would give me my best opportunity given my
learning style to learn C++.

I don't disagree with you, I think I will continue to code in VB.NET and
then maybe work on the C++ with Sam in my spare time. But I don't think I
would ignore Sam though.

At the moment I can Code VB.net, some C#, HTML, Javascript, JAVA. but I need
to know a whole heap more. and I don't learn from books, I learn from doing
it. So Sam has unknowingly given me the best opportunity to learn how to
code in C++.

I will continue to code in VB.NET.

Thanks,
Oliver

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Smola <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hello all,
>
> Oliver, I don't see how Sam's translating has anything to do with your
> progress developing your app.  You go on your merry way developing
> your Windows app as your original intent implies.  And if Sam chooses
> to try and translate, then way to go for him.  Whether he finishes it
> or not or has a different GUI has no bearing on your own personal
> progress on the app.  If I were you I'd continue as if you'd never
> heard Sam's original message and if he comes up with a translation you
> can make decisions then.
>
> VB was one of my first languages too! ;D  I know it's pretty easy, but
> if you know basic logic it's not a HUGE leap to go from language to
> language.  As you expand your curiosities I think you'll find that you
> may even prefer a different language.  I started out in software
> design but found that I preferred web development instead.
>
> Good luck on your app!
>
>
> On Oct 16, 7:57 am, Chris Bailey <[email protected]> wrote:
> > sorry for not being able to reply before. <_< not sure why it wouldn't
> let
> > me. but Oliver if you focus on just making a GUI even if it's in a
> different
> > language and make the actual getting of Wave data into it's own "core"
> that
> > can be replaced in the future you should be fine with leaving it as is
> until
> > Google releases an API
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Oliver Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > yes its an embedded webbrowser since I have found no other method that
> > > works with MIT's Proxy (New Zealand MIT).
> >
> > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Joe Developer <
> [email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > >> rar x file.rar works fine here(Debian), you may want to install
> `unrar`
> > >> from your package management system.
> > >> Have a look at 'Form1.vb' :
> > >> wbLogin.ReadyState = WebBrowserReadyState.Complete
> >
> > >> I wanted to attach the source in tar.gz format, but intriguingly gmail
> > >> tells me that it cannot be sent as it contains an executable.
> >
> > >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Sam Osborne <
> [email protected]
> > >> > wrote:
> >
> > >>> Oh and can you put the source on there in a different format? Linux
> > >>> (which I'm primarily on) can't read rars....
> >
> > >>> 2009/10/16 Sam Osborne <[email protected]>
> >
> > >>> Ouch. Wait, if it IS an embedded browser, and if it was made (which
> is
> > >>>> likely) in Visual Studio, it's an embedded IE.... Which is very
> bad...
> >
> > >>>> 2009/10/16 Joe Developer <[email protected]>
> >
> > >>>> From browsing the code it seems like a straight translation is
> unlikely
> > >>>>> to work all that well.. It seems like the vb code uses an embedded
> > >>>>> webbrowser to handle the handshaking with the wave site.
> >
> > >>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Sam Osborne <
> > >>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>> Ok... Well you could use wxWidgets to do the GUI for C++, instead
> of
> > >>>>>> something like GTK.. It may mean learning a new thing on top of
> C++, but
> > >>>>>> then you won't need some GUI maker thingy for every OS.. Linux
> just needs to
> > >>>>>> install wxWidgets, not sure about Mac, but Windows works fine.
> >
> > >>>>>> Ok.. I'll have a look at the code.. Same link as before?
> >
> > >>>>>> All my code was (and some still is) pretty scruffy.. It can't be
> that
> > >>>>>> bad!
> >
> > >>>>>> Seeing as I'm TRYING (I may fail :( ) to translate the code almost
> > >>>>>> directly, it may be pretty simple to find out which code means
> what,
> > >>>>>> espcecially if (once I've translated it all) if I match the line
> numbers up.
> >
> > >>>>>> For example:
> > >>>>>> VB.net code:
> > >>>>>> Line 1: msgbox("Hello")
> > >>>>>> C++ code:
> > >>>>>> Line 1: cout << "Hello";
> > >>>>>> Alternate C++ Code (there's another bit of code that does exactly
> the
> > >>>>>> same thing
> > >>>>>> Line 1: printf("Hello");
> >
> > >>>>>> Although you may not be able to compile it, you can sure Test For
> > >>>>>> Bugs, rather than Bug Fix, and then just tell us some bugs.. If
> you're
> > >>>>>> working your way through the simple stuff in that pdf, you may
> even be able
> > >>>>>> to fix some of them..
> >
> > >>>>>> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker <[email protected]>
> >
> > >>>>>> The Source of Version 2 has been uploaded to Google Code, remember
> > >>>>>>> that I rushed this a little and the code is very scruffy
> (readable) since I
> > >>>>>>> really wasn't expecting to get this much support for the project.
> > >>>>>>> If this is going to be coded now in C++ this has been put on
> hold.
> >
> > >>>>>>> (There is a slightly more cleaner version of the code with less
> bugs
> > >>>>>>> but I wanted to put up the code used in the latest version thats
> been
> > >>>>>>> released.)
> >
> > >>>>>>> Don't complain about this programs source, If I was to release
> this
> > >>>>>>> in vb.net with the API when it comes out this would be re -
> written
> > >>>>>>> to proper standards.
> >
> > >>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>> Oliver Baker
> >
> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Joe Developer <
> > >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>>>  On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Oliver Baker <
> [email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> Thats all very good, however I have to make sure I find people
> that
> > >>>>>>>>> I know will not suddenly ditch the application halfway through,
> leaving me
> > >>>>>>>>> dead in the water. (I am not saying that you would do it, its
> happened to me
> > >>>>>>>>> before)
> >
> > >>>>>>>>  Experience can never be taken from you.
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> I suppose we can move into C++, but we are going to have to
> find
> > >>>>>>>>> somebody who can program the GUI's for C++ Applications.
> >
> > >>>>>>>> I don't know why anyone would code the gui in C++ I think you
> would
> > >>>>>>>> find the gui more portable and easier to manage using something
> like gtk+
> > >>>>>>>> and whatever makes sense for the 'backend' be it c++ or python
> or *
> > >>>>>>>>http://www.gtk.org/screenshots.html
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> I will put up all the current plans for this application on
> > >>>>>>>>> the Specified Wave and we can start figuring out who's gonna do
> what.
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> It strikes me as very likely that the linux/mac version will be
> a
> > >>>>>>>> small shell script that gets called from something like conky
> now and then.
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>  It will be interesting to see how this all progresses.
> >
> > >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>> Oliver Baker
> >
>

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