On 11 February 2010 03:38, Ronald C.F. Antony <[email protected]> wrote:
> The next step is getting an e-mail gateway working. Since E-mail is static, 
> this is non-trivial, but it's key to allow an absorption of e-mail into wave. 
> It would be foolish to try to solve this in a general way. I think e-mail 
> works fine for message-reply or chat-style wave interactions. The gateway 
> should recognize these and send/import e-mails as such. Anything beyond that 
> should simply be turned into an e-mail message that points to a URL that 
> allows the recipient to view the wave on some web browser. Going much beyond 
> that would both complicate things too much and also remove too many 
> incentives for people actually dumping e-mail as we know it and moving to 
> Wave.


At the LCA2010 Wave mini-conference I seem to remember someone saying
Google tried to get an e-mail gateway working, but encountered some
very difficult problems. If they continued the way they were going,
Wave would become just a clone of email. As such the project was put
on hold. I don't know what these issues were, or if they can be
solved.


> The lack of e-mail and IM integration is a second issue, because most people 
> have ONE mode of communication. There are the IM types, who hardly ever send 
> an e-mail, and there are the e-mail types, who hardly ever touch IM. None of 
> then wants "yet another app" to deal with, but they might consider SWITCHING 
> to Wave, provided it allows them to continue what they are currently used to 
> doing and doesn't involve the effort to try to convert all their conversation 
> partners to move to a new platform first. (Chicken & Egg network effect 
> thing...)


The #1 big problem I have wave, is that there end up being so many
different windows I need to open to check different things, and at the
moment Wave isn't assisting, it is making matters worse. Maybe in the
future this could change. e.g. right now if I remember I should be
checking the following on a regular basis:

* home email
* work email
* gmail email
* twitter
* Wave sandbox
* Wave preview
* reader.google.com
* calendar
* request tracker at work
* jabber (I tend to miss incoming messages and not having a speaker
doesn't help)
* etc - I am sure I missed something here...

Some of these things do need to be kept separated, e.g. home
email/work email, but I think there is room for improvement.


> And lastly, people like me, have a distaste for the sort of cloud computing 
> where critical data is held hostage, I have my own computing infrastructure, 
> thank you, and if the internet goes down, I still have access to my data, and 
> that's the way it should be; which means until 100% fully featured Wave 
> servers can't be installed on my own computers (incl. web interface and all) 
> and federation works in large scale deployments, Wave will remain a toy and a 
> cool technology demonstration, but I'll avoid it for real work, and stick to 
> e-mail and IM, where I'm master over my information storage.


There needs to be a way to backup waves and continue using them
read/write if the server goes down. Or if you have a disagreement with
the hosting company for any reason.

Similarly it should be possible to create federated servers that don't
require a massive hardware budget in case the wave proves to be more
popular then expected. At the moment my understanding is that the
hosting server has a high workload for every client connected, and it
isn't possible to offload this workload to another more capable
server.
--
Brian May <[email protected]>

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