It's not entirely clear yet that it's "going" to be implemented, at least
not in bounded time; it's on my personal wish-list to do, but time is short
and that list long.
There's no specific internal "need" driving it, either; I just got to help
out a project which had decided to make private patches on GWT for their new
user agents... in untangling them from that mess, I was reminded of how this
would be desirable, and posted this version of the thread, reopening a
discussion I'd initially been oblivious to a year ago.

I'm still ruminating on Bob's note about generators; I can see that they
should be able to check both equals and matches-by-inheritance, but still
think most won't care (which should make updating easier).




On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Ray Cromwell <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> This is now the third time this feature has been brought up, here's
> the original thread:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit-Contributors/browse_thread/thread/8bd9fe0a2676c4a2
>
> I'm gathering now there's an internal need for it and it's finally
> going to be implemented? :) :)
>
> -Ray
>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Lex Spoon <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:42 AM, BobV <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> If you choose to go this route, GeneratorContext will need a "boolean
> >> propertyMatches(String propName, String value)" method to handle the
> >> hierarchical case and all existing generators that are sensitive to
> >> any deferred-binding properties will have to be updated to this API to
> >> prevent spurious breaks.
> >> """
> >>
> >> Furthermore, based on Freeland's reply:
> >>
> >> If the "iphone" value just maps onto the "safari" value for everything
> >> but rule-selection purposes, how could you then write "@if user.agent
> >> iphone" to dial in presentation in a bit more? The ClientBundle system
> >> returns differently-named types for each permutation based on feedback
> >> from the individual ResourceGenerators, (e.g.
> >> MyResources_en_US_safari).
> >>
> >> My basic point is that the specific value of the deferred-binding
> >> property is meaningless in the presence of extension values and the
> >> only useful question is "does this match" as opposed to asking "is
> >> this equal". Developers who write Generator that use deferred-binding
> >> properties to alter code-generation must update to a new API in order
> >> to prevent flaky behavior.
> >>
> >
> > That sounds right to me.  It would make sense to add that part first
> > and start switching people over.
> >
> > Also, +1 to having declared property inheritance rather than string
> > matching.  Philosophically, it's a red flag to care about the string
> > name of an identifier.  There are a lot of pragmatic issues, too.  To
> > name one, all the deferred binding rules that are against safari would
> > need to be bulk rewritten to use a regex instead.  The resulting code
> > will be noisy, and we'll need to remember to add this boilerplate for
> > all deferred binding rules in the future.
> >
> > Lex
> >
> > >
> >
>
> >
>

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