The $ vs. _ issue is weird to me, not sure what to make of it.  I think I
know the files in question, and it's possible we're not getting any value
out of having .class files for inner classes checked in to version control..
we might can rename/nuke.
All the rest sounds great.

Last request would be for a very fast way to build a minimal staging
directory, without doc, samples, etc, so that you could quickly get into a
good state to cd into user and run ant test.

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Freeland Abbott <[email protected]> wrote:

> So, I'm looking at our ant files, and trying to unwind several problems...
> but I figure I'll ask what other people have as pet peeves, to see if there
> are other games I should play, too.
>
> Here's what's on my mind right now:
>
>    - If you run "ant clean build; ant build", the second build should be
>    zero work.  It's not, and in particular it painfully builds samples twice.
>    It shouldn't.
>    - Right now, tests require a staging directory, which implies requiring
>    a full distro kit including samples.  That's unnecessary; tests should
>    require build, but not much more.
>       - Related to that, too much depends on the semi-recursive -do, which
>       is actually a no-op that depends on dist, which pulls too much in for 
> simple
>       cases.
>    - Largely orthogonal, we have checked in files with $ in their names,
>    which are supposed to also be usable wtih _ instead.  I've got a system
>    which is badly allergic to the $'s, which is why this causes me pain, but
>    generally it seems this "should" be addressed with alternate classpath 
> roots
>    anyway, so we can test both the two cases easily.
>
> Does anyone have other pain points to add?
>
>
> What I was thinking of doing is:
>
>    - Shoot the top-level -do target, in favor of having subtargets
>    directly invoke what they need from subprojects, via <antcall>, and setting
>    "target" as is done today... so e.g. target "test" can depend target 
> "build"
>    or "buildonly" and then <antcall> the "test" targets of dev, user, etc.
>    explicitly.  Since -do would no longer exist, it wouldn't depend on "dist"
>    to get the fan-out effects, and fan-out can be more selectively controlled.
>    - Untangle whatever our double-build is caused by; at first blush, it
>    seems to think my directories are out of date relative to the existing jar
>    (not the files in them, but the directories themselves).
>    - Change the default target to "dist," for back compatibility, since
>    that's what build today really does (build depends on -do which depends on
>    dist which depends on build in all the subprojects).
>    - Twiddle the semantics of "build" to be just building.  I haven't
>    decided whether that would include building samples (probably; buildonly
>    exists to skip that), but it wouldn't assemble the distro archive and then
>    unpack it as dist does.
>    - Introduce user/test_dollar and user/test_underbar as java-root
>    directories with the obvious subset of files from today's user/test, and an
>    adjustment to the test target one or the other is on classpath, controlled 
> I
>    think by a system property.
>
> Thoughts on that?
>
> >
>

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