Hi Matt,

I'm just checking out of svn gwt-rpc-plus now. I'm hoping I can use it
to wire up a solution to what seems like a simple problem: I want GWT
to serialize my DTO object and post it to a servlet that will generate
a pdf/excel file/etc for download. The DTOs are numerous / complex
enough that writing some kind parallel serializer is prohibitive. Have
you come across this use case before ?

Thanks,

Alex

On Aug 8, 8:53 pm, Matt Mastracci <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bart,
>
> One principle of design for the alternate RPC framework in this  
> library was reducing the number of non-JSO classes generated in the  
> final output, at the expense of developer convenience and  
> flexibility.  At one point, RPC classes and serializers were nearing  
> 20% of our compiled output.
>
> By reducing some of the flexibility of RPC (ie, with machine built  
> overlay types and collections that implement just enough to get by),  
> we can effectively reduce the RPC footprint in terms of wire size,  
> code size and serialization/deserialization time.
>
> Note that bobv's direct-eval RPC branch should come with its own  
> significant performance gains and code/wire size reductions. It may be  
> worth investigating the performance of trunk for your specific case as  
> well.  Of course, if GWT RPC is sufficient for your use, you can  
> always use this library to add cross-domain transport of RPC payloads  
> or add out-of-band context to the request/response data.
>
> I'd be interested in hearing any thoughts or suggestions you might have.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt.
>
> On 2009-08-08, at 10:16 AM, Bart Guijt <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > To me this sounds *very* interesting. Makes me want to find out all
> > the details why GWT-RPC is as it is, if the simpler JS collections
> > improve upon performance, memory footprint and (permutation) code size
> > etc. Efforts like this might have a big impact on mobile GWT
> > applications, which are my primary interest.
>
> > Checking the sources out right now :-)
>
> > Bart Guijt
> > E: [email protected]
> > T: +31 6 30408987
>
> > Check out my blog:http://bart.guijt.me/blog/
>
> > "A pizza with the radius 'z' and thickness 'a' has the volume  
> > pi*z*z*a"
>
> > On 8 aug 2009, at 8 aug, 04:58, Matt Mastracci wrote:
>
> >> Hey all,
>
> >> We've been working on a number of RPC enhancements locally and  
> >> thought
> >> that it might be helpful to open-source some of them (prompted by a
> >> recent suggestion from Ray Cromwell).  I've created a new Google Code
> >> project that encapsulates them here:
>
> >>http://code.google.com/p/gwt-rpc-plus/
>
> >> It's an umbrella project for a number of RPC enhancements that we're
> >> using.  It includes a set of building blocks and some higher-level
> >> code that builds on them to enhance the current GWT RPC  
> >> functionality:
>
> >> 1.  A set of 'bare-metal', strongly-typed JS collections optimized  
> >> for
> >> both RPC and client-side use.  These collections are designed to  
> >> mimic
> >> (but not fully support) the interfaces of the standard Java List, Map
> >> and Set.  They are code-generated and based on JavaScriptObject (see
> >> here:http://code.google.com/p/gwt-rpc-plus/source/browse/#svn/trunk/
> >> gwt-rpc-plus/gwt/com/dotspots/rpcplus/client/jscollections).  They  
> >> are
> >> essential to the Thrift RPC system (mentioned below), but are useful
> >> as their own standalone collections.
> >> 2.  Alternative JSON and text transports, including a cross-domain
> >> transport using window.name and standard XMLHttpRequest  
> >> communication.
> >> 3.  A set of fast utility classes to parse and emit JSON using
> >> browser-
> >> native code where possible (ie: JSON.parse/stringify, eval/uneval).
> >> 4.  A way to plug alternative transports into GWT RPC (based on a
> >> technique similar to 
> >> this:http://timepedia.blogspot.com/2009/04/gwt-rpc-over-arbitrary-transpor...
> >> )
> >> .  It currently includes a way to easily replace the RPC transport
> >> with any text transport (including the window.name transport  
> >> mentioned
> >> above).
> >> 5.  A Thrift-based, versioned RPC framework that can replace GWT RPC
> >> entirely (built on top of the above-mentioned pieces).
>
> >> The code in the library was extracted from a bunch of code scattered
> >> throughout our project.  I'm still working on refactoring and  
> >> cleaning
> >> up parts of it, so it's likely to change over the next few weeks.
> >> None of the architecture is set in stone, so anyone interested in
> >> helping contribute/architect is welcome to join in.
>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Matt.

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