I assume j2cl means java-to-closure-script-compiler, which will be the heart of GWT 3, is that right ?
Very good news ! This way GWT will be available for standard and cool web build systems... Great ! GWT downloadable as a npm package would be cool in fact... Did you evaluate gulp in your study ? Thanks Arnaud Le jeu. 18 juin 2015 à 13:19, 'Daniel Kurka' via GWT Contributors < [email protected]> a écrit : > As a side note: We had a discussion to make j2cl be able to compile itself > to JavaScript. If that is actually done you can easily integrate with all > kinds of JavaScript build tools. > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:16 PM Arnaud TOURNIER <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I've been watching an reflecting upon the gwt meetup you had few weeks >> ago. And one of my concern is about a decent build system that gwt should >> be based upon. As for now, Bazel is not ready for Windows, and also it >> needs to be installed, configured and so on, which can be cumbersome and >> repulsive. >> >> So i came up with an idea, i'm sure you did have it already but in any >> case, i will submit it here : >> >> First, there a fact : GWT is moving towards the Web ecosystem, by being >> much easily and naturally integrated with the javascript world (and more to >> the point : ES6). This means that web projects will be mixes of javascript, >> java code, colsure, clojure, coffee and so on. >> >> So to follow this philosophy, i propose not to go to the Bazel direction >> but more to the Web direction which would mean using a build system like >> "gulp" or "grunt". >> >> Did you examine such build tools when you reviewed decent ones ? >> >> And i've been trying "gulp" for a few weeks now, and i can tell : >> >> - it's very *fast* >> - it's *task based* (a bit like bazel), so conceptually it fits with >> the GWT requirements, >> - it can *watch files* for changes out-of-the-box >> - it is *modular*, and not a "framework", more a set of available >> "tools to build things". >> - it is able to launch any process, so of course it *can launch javac* >> - it is a *standard *in the web development world >> - since it is javascript, we could even *write gwt's gulp build tasks >> with gwt* ! (i think that it cannot be done straightforwardly with bazel) >> >> I think that this can prevent Java developpers from quitting GWT and it >> can also bring more pure Web developpers to GWT... >> It is also more consistent with the philosophy that GWT is embracing >> right now (IMHO) >> And it will also be more natural when needing to integrate a bit of Java >> code in a classic Web project. >> >> What do you think ? >> >> Thanks >> >> Arnaud >> >> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "GWT Contributors" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. > > >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-web-toolkit-contributors/97962d74-18a5-4b27-8a05-ff8c6a4d55b8%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-web-toolkit-contributors/97962d74-18a5-4b27-8a05-ff8c6a4d55b8%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "GWT Contributors" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/google-web-toolkit-contributors/E_H9pGdLgTs/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-web-toolkit-contributors/CALLujip1cAtWqcBfBo6hEuB3Y%2BD3CLoE3MYtuzoisf7AQzt8Mw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-web-toolkit-contributors/CALLujip1cAtWqcBfBo6hEuB3Y%2BD3CLoE3MYtuzoisf7AQzt8Mw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GWT Contributors" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-web-toolkit-contributors/CANjaDne4faa9FNz9KdhT6VOywWcNGVYm4jcdYNnKW0mK8BWe4w%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
