On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Jens <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think I would not invest too much work into the current documentation.
>

That is the reason this proposal for removing obsolete documentation. It
does not requires so much work.


>
> I strongly believe we should create a team of 2-3 people that re-think a
> new TOC along with a description what content each TOC entry should contain
> and then write up a new, up-to-date documentation for the 2.8 branch and
> later one for the 3.0+ branch. Without having a thought-out plan about the
> documentation I think GWT will never have great documentation. We need some
> people responsible for documentation.
>

+1, but it sounds like it would not be immediate, so in the meanwhile we
can just remove obsolete sections


>
> Given your above proposal I think it is too much to remove. I would keep
> the whole Ajax section and maybe just update the content a bit (it is
> interesting for people coming from Swing, PHP is valid if you want to host
> some simple stuff on any web host like the stock watcher example, RPC is
> old but a valid choice because there is no suitable alternative inside GWT
> SDK). Tutorials -> Junit is also fine as its part of the stock watcher
> example app. Basically the whole "Tutorials" item is based on the stock
> watcher app and should not be treated as single tutorials.
>

Well, being realistic, and at least in most projects I know few people
using RPC in modern apps. They use solutions based on third party libraries
and I have not seen large projects parsing Json by hand like we point in
these tutorials.
My proposal is not remove RPC and hide the rest from menus write a
paragraph in RPC enumerating some alternatives (RF, AutoBeans, RestyGWT,
gwtquery.Ajax, etc), but the current tutorial handling json makes GWT look
as a complicated framework for doing Ajax.

About the junit part we can simplify it like Thomas suggests.


>
> Also I think the GWT + Hibernate article is still valid (even for other
> JPA providers like Eclipselink which we use at work).
>
> What I would definitely remove are:
> - the GAE stuff
> - all case studies
> - developer spotlight (and then combine the remaining community pages
> under the Resources -> Community section)
> - from the Examples page the Notes example as well as every example that
> is closed source and can not be easily tested in the browser right away
> (instead maybe use something like "these companies use GWT as well: ...")
> - all presentations. Instead I would link up GWT.create
> presentations/videos and if some interesting stuff is missing you already
> know a session for the next GWT.create.
>

good point


> - all old books and all books not dealing with GWT proper (= no related
> books)
>

yes should be removed as well


>
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