Super sourcing with tests is errorprone; it is easy to get one method added
in one version but note the other and basically you end up testing nothing.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:36 AM Thomas Broyer <[email protected]> wrote:

> So, IIUC, there are 2 distinct issues, but both related to JDK versions.
>
> First, the doclet/taglet where JDK8 has com.sun.javadoc and JDK9+ have
> jdk.javadoc.doclet. This is an internal tool, so it would be wasted effort
> to maintain 2 versions. Either we keep the current code and require JDK8,
> or we migrate to the new API and require JDK.lts or JDK.latest. Those
> requirements only apply to building the javadoc though, i.e. to actually
> cut the releases.
>
> Next, the tests. If we want to be able to test JDK9+ syntax and/or APIs,
> then we either have to require such a JDK (for those tests at least), or
> supersource the code so it can run with JDK8.
> So what are the pros and cons?
>
>    - Require a specific JDK:
>       - do we require JDK.lts? or JDK.latest? (currently, JDK.lts would
>       be enough, but as soon as we add newer language syntax and/or APIs, we'd
>       have to use JDK.latest to test those)
>       - do we require it only for those specific tests (aka "use ant
>       filters") or for the whole build? (and using "--release 8" for non-test
>       code to target JDK 8; BTW, can we use "--release 8" at all? not all JDK8
>       APIs are available that way, specifically "internal" APIs)
>       requiring recent JDKs for the whole build means we no longer test
>       with JDK8, and we *have* to migrate the doclets to the new API.
>       Those are rather big cons if you ask me.
>       - Assuming ant filters then:
>          - pro: tests are easy to write/maintain, you only have to follow
>          a naming convention for the test class
>          - con: testing everything requires the JDK.lts/JDK.latest;
>          running the tests with JDK8 only covers JDK8-compatible code. If we 
> keep
>          the doclets on JDK8, this means we have to run the build twice when 
> cutting
>          a release: once with JDK.lts/JDK.latest to make sure the tests pass, 
> and
>          then once with JDK8 to actually build the artifacts.
>          - con: requires setting up the new JDKs, and new jobs, on the CI
>          server. If we keep using the current build.gwtproject.org, this
>          puts the burden on Google; that'd likely precipitate the replacement 
> of the
>          server.
>          - con: requires 2 builds to make sure things still build/run
>          with JDK8
>       - Supersourcing
>       - pro: tests can run with JDK8, so the whole build is
>       JDK8-compatible and still covers all tests
>       - con: requires somehow maintaining the tests twice, keeping the
>       javac'd and supersourced versions in sync (AFAIK, the javac'd version 
> has
>       to have the test methods so they're detected by JUnit, even if their 
> body
>       is empty; so it would be rather easy to add a test to the supersourced
>       version and never actually run it because the method is missing from the
>       javac'd version)
>
> The situation requiring the minimum effort in the short term would be
> keeping the doclets as they are and using supersourcing for the tests.
> In the long run, as JDK9+ tests grow, supersourcing might become
> unsustainable, but the impact on the CI server et al. is non-negligible. We
> could still possibly, at least temporarily, build only with JDK8, and only
> run the JDK9+ tests once in a while (at release time?), manually on a
> developer's machine as a smoke test.
>
> So, my vote would be: "require JDK8 for javadoc, supersource tests", with
> a fallback to an option you didn't list: "Allow any JDK 8+, use ant
> filters, only actually produce javadoc on JDK8 builds", and if/when someone
> wants to put the effort then migrate the doclets and move on to your third
> option: "allow any JDK8+, use ant filters, only actually produce javadoc on
> JDK9+ builds"
>
> On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 3:45:36 AM UTC+2, Colin Alworth wrote:
>>
>> As of somewhere in the time leading up to the GWT 2.9.0 release, it is no
>> longer possible to build GWT with Java7, and similarly the decision was
>> made to no longer officially support running on Java7
>> (jsinterop-annotations use of "TYPE_USE", newer jetty version too I
>> believe).
>>
>> There is still some defunct wiring in the build to handle Java 7 vs Java
>> 8 though, mostly with regards to running tests - since we first javac our
>> java classes, and then run gwtc on them, we need to make sure that the java
>> version being use can correctly compile those tests.
>>
>> The issue https://github.com/gwtproject/gwt/issues/9683 is tracking some
>> of the existing work on this: the main remaining piece is to decide how to
>> handle javadoc. GWT has its own custom doclet to handle a few custom tags,
>> "example", "gwt.include", and "tip". None of this compiles after Java 8,
>> since Java 9 came with a new, incompatible API to build custom tags, so
>> either we drop Java 8 support for building the toolkit, require _only_ Java
>> 8 to build, support two parallel copies of the custom doc wiring, or drop
>> the doc wiring entirely and remove these custom tags throughout the
>> codebase.
>>
>> Since the release of GWT 2.9 and my own work on the above ticket, I've
>> been picking back up some Java 9/10/11 JRE emulation work that I had
>> previously paused, and I'm running into the issue described at the top - if
>> you write a test that calls Map.of() and run it on Java8 as a GWTTestCase,
>> you'll get a compile error.
>>
>> Two basic ways I can easily see to fix this: we can make two copies of
>> each test, one as an empty "real" java type and one as supersource, or we
>> can guard those tests behind java version args in the build glue like we
>> did for Java7 vs Java8. The first option is clunky, and while I see this
>> was done for `com.google.gwt.dev.jjs.test.Java8Test`, it clearly wasn't
>> done for JRE emulation tests, and I assume there was a reason for that. The
>> second option requires changing our CI to build+test on some new JRE...
>>
>> ...and given the constraints of the Java LTS system, and the java 8/9
>> divide for custom doclet stuff, it seems like the clearest win is to move
>> all the way to Java11, though continue to target java 8 releases, and test
>> on all JREs up until current.
>>
>> So that's my pitch. For completeness, some other options that seem
>> workable, keeping in mind that at present there are about 3 important JRE
>> versions to support well: Java 8, Java 11, and the current stable release.
>>  * Require Java8 for javadoc, supersource tests
>>  * Allow any JRE 8+, use ant filters for tests for each version, maintain
>> two javadoc builds
>>  * Allow any JRE 8+, use ant filters, only actually produce javadoc on
>> java9+ builds
>>
>> Other technical ways to deal with this, or have a missed an easier
>> solution to one of these problems?
>>
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