OK, I guess not many people have used this technique.

So, I will try explaining this in a different way.

Indeed, DevMode runs a CodeServer itself.

We have a GWT Maven project and we run it using the "DevMode" runner of 
"Google Plugin for Eclipse", in a single step, instead of running 
CodeServer and servlet container separately etc.

This starts DevMode (with internal codeserver) and a Jetty server on a 
given TCP port.

When accessing the application from a browser, DevMode compiles the GWT 
client-code at runtime and delivers it to the browser (no separate 
codeserver, no separate servlet container etc.)

>> Same with CodeServer with -launcherDir, or DevMode with -noserver
This is equivalent to DevMode without "noserver".

>> What would be the workflow with DevMode serving only static files, and 
servlets deployed separately?
The workflow would be the same, it is just the GWT client-side code 
wouldn't know how to access the server-side code.

I hope this explains things better.

On Saturday, 17 April 2021 at 20:32:13 UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:

>
>
> Le sam. 17 avr. 2021 à 21:15, Jonathon Lamon <[email protected]> a 
> écrit :
>
>> I have just recently set this up.. with the current GWT plugin for 
>> Eclipse because I actually needed to run some JaxB servlets.  I ran into 
>> problems with JaxB servlets not loading when running in embedded Jetty, but 
>> setting up CodeServer runner with a launchDir pointing to the war folder 
>> and running deploying my GWT project to Tomcat.  When the Tomcat server 
>> started, it would automatically start the CodeServer. 
>>
>> I only saw these problems: 
>>
>> Restarting tomcat server without stopping CodeServer would cause multiple 
>> CodeServers to run.  IE CodeServer does not check if it is already running 
>> against an existing launchDir. 
>>
>> I ran into classpath and compilation issues where CodeServer would not 
>> generate serializable entities for some of my classes that work fine under 
>> DevMode. 
>>
>> CoseServer seemed to take an extra long time to compile vs DevMode.
>>
>
> Given that DevMode actually just runs CodeServer itself (literally: 
> https://github.com/gwtproject/gwt/blob/8e09375adcc0a3ac976ba74286589d6d7007958d/dev/core/src/com/google/gwt/dev/shell/SuperDevListener.java#L99),
>  
> I don't think this is possible.
> Could be due to more pressure on your computer resources (memory and/or 
> CPU) in that configuration maybe?
>
>
>>
>> My project is extremely large so there are many modules, some gwt some 
>> not, somewhere between 20-30 projects altogether and Multiple GWT modules.  
>> Runs fabulously, for the most part under DevMode, but CodeServer just seems 
>> to have trouble.  I am surr that this is just do to various options set 
>> differently at runtime and perhaps some classpath loading differences, but 
>> an example that shows how to run CodeServer to reproduce the effect of 
>> running under DevMode would be imperative before removing DevMode.
>>
>
> IIRC the CodeServer arguments are logged in DevMode window so you could 
> copy-paste them. Use the same classpath, just change the main class from 
> DevMode to CodeServer and change the arguments.
> Or continue to use DevMode and just pass -noserver.
>
>
>>
>>
>>   
>>
>> Jonathon Lamon
>>
>> DevOps Manager / Principal Engineer Special Projects
>> Perceptronics Solutions Inc.
>> Cell 269-205-4649 <(269)%20205-4649>
>> www.percsolutions.com
>>
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>> [email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 17, 2021 2:45:35 PM
>> *To:* GWT Contributors <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [gwt-contrib] Asking for decision on DevMode embedded 
>> Jetty support 
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>> During development, 
>> with "SuperDevMode"+"Jetty" and "Google Plugin for Eclipse", 
>> GWT client-side code compilation (including the nocache.js files) is done 
>> at runtime by DevMode. 
>>
>> Any other scenario demands that we,
>> separately compile the GWT client-side code,
>> separately run a servlet,
>> separately deploy the GWT code to the server (both client-side and 
>> server-side),
>> separately run GWT CodeServer,
>> then run a browser,
>> then genearate the CodeServer link etc. 
>>
>> The complexity difference is obvious.
>>
>> I hope this explains my case.
>>
>> On Saturday, 17 April 2021 at 19:36:18 UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> If it's not a problem for you to serve servlets separately, could you 
>> explain why you couldn't have this other server also serve the host page 
>> and nocache.js file? Is that due to, maybe, how your projects are 
>> structured? (Could you give more details then?) 
>> Trying to understand what's blocking people here.
>>
>> Le sam. 17 avr. 2021 à 20:06, [email protected] <[email protected]> 
>> a écrit :
>>
>> This feels much better now. 
>>
>> Serving only static GWT client-side via DevMode+Jetty sounds good.
>>
>> We could run the GWT server-side only code separately, not a problem at 
>> all.
>>
>> But, how would the GWT client-side know how to access GWT server-side?
>>
>> On Saturday, 17 April 2021 at 18:45:39 UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> Moreover, we have to be careful when we say "remove Jetty", because Jetty 
>> is used in CodeServer and JUnitShell. 
>> Really the question here is about removing the ability to serve webapps, 
>> with servlets, from DevMode.
>>
>> Le sam. 17 avr. 2021 à 19:34, [email protected] <[email protected]> 
>> a écrit :
>>
>> This is a very good idea. 
>>
>> I am afraid though that it wouldn't change the situation much because the 
>> classpaths of GWT and Jetty co-exist and must be aligned regardless.
>>
>> But, I would stand corrected.
>>
>> On Saturday, 17 April 2021 at 17:25:19 UTC+1 Paul Robinson wrote:
>>
>> Would it be plausible to split GWT into two projects - one as it is now 
>> but without Jetty built in, and another that adds the bits relating to 
>> Jetty? 
>>
>> Then the GWT Jetty project could be maintained by those that require it.
>>
>> Paul
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