Just to clarify, I am NOT defending JS from bytecode. I just think both strategies have pros and cons. Let's give MS some time to mature it's product and see what's the best approach.
2008/8/25 Jason Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Quite frankly, my point of view on this subject is: reverse engineering > Java > byte-code is a black-art. > > Different Java compilers produce different byte-code structures, often > confusing > these tools. The tools themselves are constantly trying to patch strange > little > behaviours as the compilers change and the byte-code changes. Decompilers > are > nasty beasts on the inside, and often break while trying to decompile > certain > structures. > > One of the advantages of using byte-code for GWT would be multi-language > support? I think not! It would be hard enough just trying to maintain a Sun > JavaC decompiler, let alone trying to get other language compilers (and > their > supporting API's) running in JavaScript. > > Go take a look at the JRE emulation code in GWT for String. Then think > about how > well this would fly. A bit like a herd of drunk elephants. > > Magno Machado wrote: > > Depending on the level of the performance penalty, loading class on > > demand is much better than downloading all the application on start up, > > as GWT does. > > ---- > > Another advantage of generate JS from compiled code is that one can > > write a lib and don't have to make the sources available for users. > > > > 2008/8/25 Maxim <maxim.ge <http://maxim.ge>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com > >> > > > > > > On Aug 25, 7:46 am, Arthur Kalmenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > compiles statically typed languages. A lot of the GWT > optimizations > > > rely on types being known at compile time and the removal of > > > Reflections, these two properties are fundamental in most dynamic > > > languages and would thus make it impossible to optimize code the > > > resulting JS the way the GWT compiler does. > > > > As I understand from: > > > > http://livelabs.com/volta/docs/issues/ > > "At run time a Volta application downloads many files from the > server, > > one for each class that is used. The classes are loaded lazily, i.e. > > not downloaded until they are needed..." > > > > they do not need "by size" optimization - they load only those > classes > > which are really used. > > > > >From other side, loading class-by-class can seriously affect > > perfomance ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
