thanks for the clarification.

Maybe a sufficiently strong wording in the compatibility guarantees is
enough.

Something like this: We will try really hard to not rename all methods and
move all packages around in the next week commits. However we may introduce
incompatible changes as we are evolving the API. So no you can't use
__this__ in __production__.

Or maybe this a bad idea that will lead to a new KDE4 fiasco.

Who knows?

    Vassilis


On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:14 PM, Daniel Kurka <[email protected]>
wrote:

> There is some reasoning behind us not broadly announcing elemental2 and
> the jsinteorp generator:
> They are both still beta software in the sense that we know there are
> existing problems, but we already want feedback on them.
> There are still no guarantees on APIs / compat but if you are brave and
> want to be part of evolving them and turning them into a finished and
> polished product, you can do that.
>
> We will announce them broadly once we consider them ready for general use
> and have a compatibility guarantee in place.
>
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:48 AM Vassilis Virvilis <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Ah yes that explains it. It was j2cl that I remembered.
>>
>> Thanks for the clarification.
>>
>>     Vassilis
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Colin Alworth <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I think you may be misremembering - the jars were released to maven as
>>> experimental last summer, then as beta in April, and only after that were
>>> they on github.
>>>
>>> J2CL is not expected to be dropped until it is "ready", but as with
>>> elemental2, this isn't going to mean "bugfree" but more like "complete
>>> enough to be reviewed and used".
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 1:10:37 PM UTC-5, Vassilis Virvilis wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Looks like they are also here in source form
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/google/elemental2
>>>> https://github.com/google/jsinterop-generator
>>>>
>>>> I thought google didn't want to release them before they were "ready".
>>>> So either they changed their mind, or they feel it is ready or I don't
>>>> remember correctly :-)
>>>>
>>>>      Vassilis
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Colin Alworth <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The groupId has changed - using the mvnrepository site, try
>>>>> https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/com.google.elemental2 to see all
>>>>> of the jars now available.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 11:14:33 AM UTC-5, Bruno Salmon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Additionally, this supports the recent beta release of
>>>>>>> jsinterop.base and elemental2, available from Maven Central.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where can we find that elemental2  beta release (I can see only the
>>>>>> June 2016 version on that page
>>>>>> <https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/com.google.gwt/elemental2-experimental>
>>>>>> )?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for all your amazing work.
>>>>>>
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