On 09. 03. 2021. 17:28, Thomas Broyer wrote:

Spring: I think the thing I dislike the most about Spring is what many people like about it: it's an entire, wide, and fat, ecosystem. You can hardly use one piece of Spring without using everything else; I mean, each Spring piece builds on top of another Spring piece, so it's basically an all-or-nothing. I also fear that people doing mostly Spring won't know how to do things without it (like most big/fat framework actually). I'm a no-framework guy; I think each library should be usable on its own (good for it if it provides adapters to make it easier to use within a particular framework, I won't care), and Spring is the exact opposite.

Besides being a kitchen sink, it's also very slow. We can argue about speed of Spring layer in an app having database and network stacks, but comparing just that one layer with non-Spring code may result in 10x difference in throughput (not 10%, but 10x - order of magnitude).

If anyone is interested in details, here is sample test case I put to demo this (it was a bet :) ):

        https://github.com/gkresic/muddy-waters

"Whale" is the way we are building things past few years, but Shark may be interesting if you are considering microservices. Notice that Whale is feature-comparable to Megalodon (Spring), yet 3-4 times faster (and provides interchangeable libs, as you pointed out).

Relevant fact: prior to that test I had zero experience with Rapidoid and DSL-JSON - I found them simply by googling "fast java [ (rest server) (JSON) ]". Also, I had verly limited (and outdated) experiece with Spring. Yet, both are implemented in only few lines of code, but they differ an order of magnitude in speed.

        -gkresic.

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