Thanks for your responses, GraalVM WASM is something to keep in mind but 
easiest to use teavm for now, basic plumbing is straightforward. Unfortunately 
Craig afaik to generate js from a GWT lib it has to be compiled in a GWT app.

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  On Sun, Dec 28, 2025 at 4:59 AM, Dmitrii Tikhomirov<[email protected]> 
wrote:   

I am the person who continues to maintain the J2CL Maven plugin. If you need to 
build a JavaScript application and run it in a JavaScript environment, you can 
look at how this is implemented here 
(https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-tools/tree/main/packages/serverless-workflow-diagram-editor)
 (this is an application that uses a Jakarta-like CDI framework, along with 
JSON/YAML marshallers).

It looks like the Google team is finishing work on adding support for records, 
so I will be updating the entire stack soon to enable these features

At the moment, GWT is noticeably more stable than J2CL, so I would recommend 
taking another look at it. However, if you really do not want to go that route, 
you could also consider running a WASM application using GraalVM.


On Dec 27, 2025, at 1:55 PM, Craig Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote:
Isn't that what <packaging>gwt-lib</packaging> is designed for in GWT? ( 
https://tbroyer.github.io/gwt-maven-plugin/usage.html )
Unless you're not running on a Java backend.  So you'd need a npm package 
created somehow.  Not sure how to do that.
On Sunday, 28 December 2025 at 8:33:42 am UTC+11 Tim Macpherson wrote:

I want to provide client js that is logic only, no UI,  I write it in  java 
because the tooling in typescript is not good enough. I need to release this as 
pure js, it's that simple 

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  On Sat, Dec 27, 2025 at 8:59 PM, Colin Alworth<[email protected]> wrote: 
  

It still isnt quite clear to me what you're asking for - can you be more 
precise?

That is, if you're writing d3 js code, the best way to make that available to 
others is JS. Each Java-to-JS compiler first assumes that the next developer is 
using Java, but each makes their own assumptions about how to map JS ideas to 
Java, so there isn't a one-size-fits-all approach. JsInterop types at least are 
mostly the same for both J2CL and GWT - but if you have a user who doesn't use 
GWT, they probably also don't use Java in the client at all?
On Saturday, December 27, 2025 at 1:34:46 PM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote:

GWT works for me and I will always be using it in my own stack while it's 
maintained, but I need to make some of my d3 js code and client java 
surrounding it available for others who don't use GWT. Teavm is maybe best tool 
for that.

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  On Sat, Dec 27, 2025 at 7:17 PM, Colin Alworth<[email protected]> wrote: 
 

"Best" is hard to define - what are your requirements?
If GWT doesn't fit your use cases, it seems unlikely that J2CL will - can you 
elaborate on what about GWT doesn't work for you? If anything, I've found J2CL 
to be more picky than GWT in just about every way - more limited options for 
emulation, more requirements for JsInterop, no JSNI/Generators, smaller 
ecosystem and prior art for customizing the build (whether using the maven 
plugin or the official Bazel build tooling).
It does tend to produce slightly smaller and slightly faster output, and does 
offer better integration with compiling plain JS sources in the same build 
(with the requirement that this JS must be built to be safe to compile by 
closure-compiler in ADVANCED mode).
For a generally bigger set of JRE emulation (and much larger output sizes), 
consider TeaVM or CheerpJ - both have their strengths. I don't have a lot of 
experience with either, but I do find that for math-heavy apps, TeaVM does a 
great job getting even better performance in some cases than GWT or J2CL, and 
produces output much more quickly. It tends to do much more poorly on string 
heavy (e.g. DOM manipulation). CheerpJ I have almost no experience with, but 
excels at supporting nearly any JRE-compatible code, and finding a way to make 
it work regardless of whether the browser is a good place to run it. This is a 
huge advantage for "it doesn't matter as long as it can run" cases - more and 
more it can be possible to run a JS app that is hundreds of times what would 
have been acceptable a few years ago.
On Saturday, December 27, 2025 at 12:08:38 PM UTC-6 [email protected] 
wrote:

Can someone advise if it's the best tool for building js code from pure logic 
front end java ? I need to enable usage for those not using GWT. Thanks

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