Haha - :)

You're right.  You answered the obvious question and I appreciate
that.  I didn't mean for you to take offense to my further inquiry.

However, I was hoping that the issue of contradictory statements in
the GWT docs would be addressed more directly in addition to the
question of browser-modes, the one that you answered so well.  The
clarification may help others avoid similar confusion.

-robert

On Jun 22, 5:57 am, Ian Bambury <[email protected]> wrote:
> You asked "So - TRANSITIONAL denotes STANDARDS mode...Or - does TRANSITIONAL
> denote QUIRKS mode ?"
>
> Please accept my apologies for answering your question. Rest assured it
> won't happen again.
>
> Ian
>
> http://examples.roughian.com
>
> 2009/6/22 Robert Lehr <[email protected]>
>
>
>
> > Pardon me if I am missing something.  But I do not see how your
> > comments address the apparent contradiction in the docs.
>
> > -robert
>
> > On Jun 20, 7:23 am, Ian Bambury <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Transitional means 'transitional'. It differs depending on the html
> > version.
> > > '4.01 Transitional' means 'contains all HTML elements and attributes,
> > > including presentational and deprecated elements (like font). Framesets
> > are
> > > not allowed.'
>
> > > But...
>
> > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional// EN">
>
> > > ...will trigger quirks mode in newer browsers and older browsers just
> > have
> > > quirks anyway. Although not the same quirks as each other, of course.
>
> > > Personally, I use
>
> > > <!DOCTYPE Common PUBLIC '-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN' '
> >http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd'>
>
> > > which will give you the 4.01 Transitional behaviour mentioned above in
> > > almost all browsers - all the important ones, anyway.
>
> > > 2009/6/20 Robert Lehr <[email protected]>
>
> > > > FYI, there appears to be a discrepancy in the docs w/rt to the doc
> > > > type specifying
> > > > "Transitional" denotes "Standards" mode or "Quirks" mode.
>
> > > > Which does it denote ?  Note the following from GWT docs.
>
> > > > Fromhttp://code.google.com/webtoolkit/tutorials/1.6/create.html-
>
> > > >        To provide better cross-browser compatibility, GWT sets the
> > > > doctype declaration to HTML 4.01 Transitional. This sets the rendering
> > > > engine to "Standards Mode". If you remove this line, the page will be
> > > > rendered in "Quirks Mode", ...
>
> > > > So - TRANSITIONAL denotes STANDARDS mode.
>
> > > > From the comments in the "host page" auto-gen'ed by webAppCreator -
>
> > > >        <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//
> > > > EN">
> > > >        <!-- The HTML 4.01 Transitional DOCTYPE declaration-->
> > > >        <!-- above set at the top of the file will set     -->
> > > >        <!-- the browser's rendering engine into           -->
> > > >        <!-- "Quirks Mode". Replacing this declaration     -->
> > > >        <!-- with a "Standards Mode" doctype is supported, -->
> > > >        <!-- but may lead to some differences in layout.   -->
>
> > > > Or - does TRANSITIONAL denote QUIRKS mode ?
>
> > > > -robert
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