Hi Frank and Trevis, you are both correct, and I guess I should
apologise to some extent, I was just throwing the question out there
to see what kind of a response I got. I am happy to drop this thread
now and concentrate on specific GWT questions.

I have been burnt several times over the last six months, both with
commercial organisations and individuals who have promised the world
and then simply not delivered. Hence I am very wary of getting
involved with anyone new.

Frank, I used to be a programmer, but have moved away from it over the
years, and have been forced back into it, due to being unable to find
anyone else who can do a good enough job for me. I dont want to be
doing the programming, I am an ideas man, so if you have any
suggestions as to how i can find "competent developers" without having
to pay them for 2 months work before finding out how good they really
are, then I am all ears!!

Apologies to anyone who has taken any kind of offence to my asking
this question on here!

Thanks for all your responses though!  :D

J

On Sep 11, 4:33 pm, Trevis <trevistho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> imho, the purposes of forums like this isnt to find someone who will
> help you off line but to share questions that others may have so that
> they can be answered in on central repository.  Further the questions
> and responses could possibly guide future development and
> documentation.
>
> To that end i think that questions in this specific forum should be
> GWT specific not development in general.
>
> That my opinion anyway.
> Trevis
>
> On Sep 11, 10:14 am,JohnVDenley<johnvden...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ok Mars, I wasnt really expecting a technical response on this
> > particular problem yet, this post was designed to see if anyone was
> > willing to allow me to send questions to them directly rather than
> > having to wait for responses on here.
>
> > I dont take offence with your reply, although I dont think your
> > opinions are correct!
>
> > 1. I'd certainly love for someone to write the app for me, but im
> > equally happy to realise that id never get anyone to do that for
> > nothing!  We actually did employ an indian development company to do
> > this for us, but they didnt do anywhere near an acceptable job for us
> > and that burnt most of our startup costs. I have now had to take on
> > the job myself, and so far I feel Ive been doing a pretty good job, we
> > are hoping to start selling V3 of the product next week!
>
> > 2. I do try to read the documentation, I usually dont post onto this
> > forum until Ive completely run out of ideas having read everything I
> > can find out about the specific issue im trying to solve.Usually the
> > problem is that most of the documentation and suggestions from people
> > like youself assume a certain level of understanding of all the
> > technologies involved, and often there are terms used, which have no
> > meaning to me, and I then have to go and investigate those terms
> > before i can understand the issue im reading about, often to only find
> > that half the stuff im looking into is not relevant to what im
> > actually trying to do.
>
> > On this particular issue I am quite happily transferring data to and
> > from the datastore (Google App Engine - which i did mention above). Im
> > not actually 100% certain what technology terms to use to describe how
> > im doing that bit now, I think its RPC, but i cant be sure. I took the
> > code for the stockwatcher example and modified that to do what im
> > doing, and some of the code from the "sticky" application (I think).
>
> > I have managed to work around the above problem through my own
> > "ingenuity" by breaking the date down for each appointment on the
> > server side into month/day/hour/minute and then passing this as a
> > string[][] array back to the client, where i reconstitute the date
> > back into a date object and then apply the localisation manually. I am
> > certain that this is a horrible way to achieve the result, but it
> > works OK, so for now Im going to live with it.
>
> > I now have a new problem (sending an HTTP request to a 3rd party
> > website from the server rather than the client to avoid the "single-
> > origin security restriction"). I have been trying to figure this out
> > since about 11pm last night but have not yet looked at all online
> > documentation and forum posts yet.  I will probably post that
> > separately later this evening as its unrelated to this thread and im
> > not feeling hopeful about finding an easy answer to that!
>
> > Thanks for your input anyway, all responses are always appreciated :D
>
> > J
>
> > On Sep 11, 9:56 am, mars1412 <martin.trum...@24act.at> wrote:
>
> > > to me it's no surprise, that you don't get answers to a post like this
>
> > > here's my very personal opinion and I assure you, it's meant to help
> > > and not to offend you
>
> > > my opinion after reading your post is
>
> > > 1st impression: your not looking for answers to your questions, but
> > > for someone who will write the app. for you
>
> > > 2nd impression:  you didn't really read the docs and try simple
> > > examples of whatever technology you use.
> > > because storing and retrieving data from whatever datastore you use
> > > is a very basic thing to do and I can't imagine that the specific
> > > documentation of your datastore-product does not provide information
> > > or basic examples about this.
>
> > > so what I suggest:
> > >  * read the docs
> > >  * try some examples
> > >  * provide detailed information
> > >    e.g. what technology are you using?
> > >    GWT, GAE, HIbernate, JPA, JDO, Spring, ...?
> > >    how do you transfer data from the server to the client?
> > >    RPC, JSON, ...?
> > >  * provide specific questions about small problems and maybe
> > >    even include source-code or an errormessage
>
> > > On Sep 10, 3:03 pm,JohnVDenley<johnvden...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Is there anyone out there who would l like to help me out? Its
> > > > ultimately a commercial product, but Im really not a programmer
> > > > anymore, I used to know C, but all this webstuff is hurting my brain!
>
> > > > My current problem is that Ive managed to get my application to create
> > > > entries in the datastore (I know thats a bit of a GAE area) but the
> > > > problem Im having now is retrieving the data. Im storing an
> > > > appointment into the datastore, but now when trying to retrieve it, I
> > > > need to get several variables back, so far I can only get strings or
> > > > string arrays back.But I really need to retrieve the date back now, as
> > > > its stored as a UTC on the server, and of course that means that when
> > > > if I pass it back as a string and parse it then the time is wrong for
> > > > my local timezone (I know this is a horrible way to do it, but i was
> > > > just trying to get something quick and dirty up and running, and then
> > > > work out later how to do it properly!)
>
> > > > I have tried to change my server calls so they use a more complex data
> > > > type (Appointment class) but the compiler is now giving me a ton of
> > > > error messages which i dont understand (basically lots of "i cant
> > > > resolve that type" kinds of messages)
>
> > > > Im a bit lost and could use some more expert help with this, but cant
> > > > seem to find anyone willing to put in a bit of time and effort to help
> > > > me out without wanting payment!!!
>
> > > > Can anyone help me please?!
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