Keith, any news on the plugin update?

Brian

On Feb 4, 2:33 pm, Keith Platfoot <kplatf...@google.com> wrote:
> Yes, I've been meaning to reply back to this thread.  Thanks for reminding
> me, Brian! :-)
>
> Our plans for the next release of the Google Plugin for Eclipse (1.3)
> include 4 changes designed to make integration with Maven and J2EE projects
> easier:
>
>    1. The WAR directory can now be configured to be *any* project-relative
>    path (e.g. src/main/webapp if you're using Maven).  You'll also be able
>    to specify whether that directory is source-only (typical Maven/J2EE
>    scenario), or whether it should also function as the WAR output directory
>    from which to run/debug or deploy to App Engine.  If your WAR directory is
>    input *and* output (which will remain the default for new Web App
>    projects), the plugin will manage synchronizing the contents of WEB-INF/lib
>    WEB-INF/classes with your project's build path and compiled output.
>     Otherwise, we'll leave your WAR source directory alone and you'll need to
>    specify your WAR output location when launching, deploying, etc (the plugin
>    will remember the location once you set it the first time).
>    2. The Web App launch configuration UI is being redesigned to allow you
>    to see, and if necessary change, *any* of the launch arguments.
>     Previously, we were waiting until launch time to set many of these
>    arguments based on heuristics that were invisible and inaccessible to you.
>     Now you'll be in full control of how your projects get launched.  Also,
>    we're adding the capability to automatically migrate your launch
>    configurations when necessary, for example, updating the -javaagent flag
>    when changing App Engine SDKs.
>    3. GWT/App Engine projects will no longer require our SDK library on the
>    classpath.  This means Maven users will be able to pull in JAR files from
>    their M2 repository as they're accustomed to and the plugin won't mind a
>    bit.
>    4. The severity of any problem marker generated by the plugin will be
>    fully customizable via an Errors/Warnings preference page (similar to the
>    Java Errors/Warnings page), letting you specify either Error, Warning, or
>    Ignore.
>
> We'll also be including a few smaller features and bug fixes as well.
>
> What does everyone think about the 4 changes outlined above?  We've been
> testing the plugin against various Maven and J2EE configurations to try to
> ensure that we've eliminated the most critical roadblocks.  However, we're
> very interested in also having you folks take it for a spin before the
> official release date (slated for next month).  We're not quite ready yet,
> but stay tuned for a 1.3 preview build to be made available hopefully in a
> few weeks.  We'll distribute it as a zip file for dropin
> installation<http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/install-from-zip.html>
> so
> it will come with the standard warnings and caveats (use with a clean
> Eclipse install and workspace, use at your risk, etc.).  However, it will
> hopefully give you a chance to give us any last-minute feedback about our
> changes before the final release.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:55 PM, bkbonner <brian.bon...@paraware.com> wrote:
> > Keith, are you going to give the folks who replied to your message
> > some sort of thoughts on what you're going to implement and hopefully
> > let us try it before you end up releasing the next release of the
> > plugin?
>
> > Brian
>
> > On Jan 13, 11:35 am, Keith Platfoot <kplatf...@google.com> wrote:
> > > Hi folks,
>
> > > For the next release of the Google Plugin for Eclipse, we're planning on
> > > making a few tweaks to make life easier for Maven users. That's right:
> > we've
> > > seen the stars on the issue tracker, and have decided it's time to act. I
> > > would say, "we feel your pain", but the problem is, we don't. Which is to
> > > say, nobody on the plugin team actually uses Maven (everybody around here
> > > uses Ant). However, I've been researching Maven to determine exactly what
> > > changes we should make to allow it to work more seamlessly with the
> > Google
> > > Eclipse Plugin. I've read the relevant issues and groups postings, so I
> > > think I have a rough idea of what needs to happen. However, before we go
> > and
> > > make any changes, I wanted to ask for the community's advice.  So, here
> > are
> > > some questions for you.
>
> > > What is the typical workflow of a GWT developer using Maven?
>
> > > I've installed Maven and the gwt-maven-plugin 1.2-SNAPSHOT and managed to
> > > create a GWT 2.0 app with the provided archetype. After some tweaking,
> > I'm
> > > able to GWT compile, debug with Eclipse (though not via our Web App
> > launch
> > > configuration), create a WAR, etc. However, I'm more interested in how
> > you all
> > > are doing things. For example:
>
> > > How do you...
>
> > >    - Create a new project?
> > >    - Perform GWT compiles?
> > >    - Debug with Eclipse?
> > >    - Run your tests?
> > >    - Create a WAR for deployment?
>
> > > What specific pain points do Maven users run into when using the Google
> > > plugin?
>
> > > I know one major obstacle is that our plugin currently treats the war
> > > directory as both an input (e.g. static resources, WEB-INF/lib,
> > > WEB-INF/web.xml) and output (WEB-INF/classes, GWT artifacts like
> > nocache.js
> > > and hosted.html) . Maven convention, however, says that /src/main/webapp
> > > should be input only, which means that hosted mode (or development mode,
> > in
> > > GWT 2.0) needs to run from a staging directory (e.g. gwt:run creates a
> > /war
> > > folder on demand). This mismatch results in the plugin creating spurious
> > > validation errors and breaks our Web App launch configuration.
>
> > > Another incompatibility is that Maven projects depend on the GWT Jars in
> > the
> > > Maven repo, whereas our plugin expects to always find a GWT SDK library
> > on
> > > the classpath.
>
> > > Are my descriptions of these pain points accurate?  If so, one possible
> > > solution would be for the plugin to allow the definition of an input war
> > > directory (e.g. src/main/webapp) separate from a launch-time staging
> > > directory, and for us to relax the requirement that all GWT projects must
> > > have a GWT SDK library.  So tell me: would these changes adequately
> > reduce
> > > the friction between Maven and the Google plugin?
>
> > > Also, are there other problems Maven users are running into when using
> > the
> > > plugin?
>
> > > Thanks in advance for all feedback,
>
> > > Keith, on behalf of the Google Plugin for Eclipse team
>
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