Can't help there, as I haven't tried it yet. Anyway the Spring Roo
tutorial includes generation of persistent classes using JPA and
Hibernate, so I guess it will include some way to get those entities
to GWT, taking into account that is integrated with it

Good luck!!

On 21 mayo, 12:57, Navigateur <naveen.c...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Thanks José!
>
> Spring Roo looks brilliant! Just one issue, does any of its modules
> utilise Gilead or another DTO assembler so that the Hibernate entities
> can smoothly go to the GWT client-side?
>
> On May 20, 5:03 pm, José González Gómez
>
>
>
> <jose.gonzalez.go...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Although you could think they're the perfect solution for persistence
> > in OO languages, object databases haven't taken off, so if you're
> > doing anything serious I would be cautious about using them. I don't
> > know of any big application in production with an OODB. Maybe we're
> > too used to relational databases...
>
> > Take a look at Spring Roo, I think you will like it.
>
> > Best regards
> > José
>
> > On 20 mayo, 17:43, Navigateur <naveen.c...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Wow, thanks José and David!
>
> > > I'm new to "tools" so I'm a bit nervous about using them (although I
> > > probably shouldn't be) whereas db4o offers straightforward code for
> > > persisting objects. Are there any disadvantages to using db4o instead
> > > of ORM with tools? db4o seems intuitavely the best option for me right
> > > now, but could I be wrong? I thank David for bringing it to my
> > > attention, it looks VERY interesting, and under active development,
> > > although the queries are currently reportedly slow, but when that is
> > > fixed, is there a reason why it shouldn't supercede RD and ORD for new
> > > projects?
>
> > > On May 20, 3:18 pm, José González Gómez
>
> > > <jose.gonzalez.go...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > JPA/Hibernate supports annotations, so you don't have to fiddle with
> > > > xml files any more; and JPA/Hibernate has adopted the "sane defaults"
> > > > and "convention over configuration" policy, so unless you want to take
> > > > control of your mappings (something you should do if you're doing
> > > > anything serious) most of the times it's enough to annotate the
> > > > persistent class with the @Entity annotation.
>
> > > > Anyway, if you're handling complex object structures, it's way more
> > > > cumbersome to handle persistence by hand, instead of using a ORM
> > > > framework. If you want to have automatic update of the database,
> > > > Hibernate tools is able to generate the database schema from your
> > > > mappings. I suggest to take a look at Maven, Maven Hibernate plugin,
> > > > JBoss Tools, and Spring Roo. Haven't worked with the later, but GWT
> > > > has just made a coordinated release with Spring Roo and I think it may
> > > > be quite interesting for you.
>
> > > > I hope this isn't getting too much OT...
>
> > > > HTH, best regards
> > > > José
>
> > > > On 20 mayo, 15:37, Navigateur <naveen.c...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Thanks José! But don't they still require you to do the "hibernate-
> > > > > mapping" xml thing? Isn't this cumbersome for complex object
> > > > > structures? Or is there a way of being able to play with your object
> > > > > structure without having to change the hibernate-mapping xml every
> > > > > time (i.e. a default automatic behaviour for all objects, which also
> > > > > updates the data-store to reflect object-structure changes in the
> > > > > code)?
>
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > N
>
> > > > > On May 20, 10:08 am, José González Gómez
>
> > > > > <jose.gonzalez.go...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Although your question has (almost) nothing to do with GWT... we're
> > > > > > working on a GWT + JavaEE application, and evaluated several
> > > > > > alternatives regarding this problem. We had two winners, both of 
> > > > > > them
> > > > > > using of course JPA with Hibernate provider:
>
> > > > > > 1. Use Gilead to transform your persistent entities and send them to
> > > > > > GWT
> > > > > > 2. Use DTOs, and use Dozer to transform from / to domain objects /
> > > > > > entities
>
> > > > > > In our case we chose DTOs / Dozer over Gilead because we favoured
> > > > > > layer separation, encapsulation and security over development ease.
> > > > > > YMMV
>
> > > > > > Best regards
> > > > > > José
>
> > > > > > On 20 mayo, 10:54, Navigateur <naveen.c...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Ah yes! Except that I want to be able to get persistent things 
> > > > > > > onto my
> > > > > > > client side without too much conversion or trouble (i.e. the same
> > > > > > > objects client-and-server-side using the same language, and the 
> > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > class definitions).
>
> > > > > > > What are my full range of options for this, anyway?
> > > > > > > And which is the best one for the purposes I've mentioned?
>
> > > > > > > On May 20, 12:34 am, Blessed Geek <blessedg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Wouldn't  your initial question be like -
> > > > > > > > What is the best power tool to use to build the fence around my 
> > > > > > > > garden
> > > > > > > > if I wish to plant my garden with tulips.
>
> > > > > > > > But later on in your post, you reveal that your question 
> > > > > > > > actually has
> > > > > > > > nothing to do with GWT, just as growing tulips has nothing to 
> > > > > > > > do with
> > > > > > > > choice of power tools for your fence.
>
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