Thanks Thomas,

I'm glad to hear that... It seems like some of these could be
integrated in gwt-platform apps (i.e. Cell-based widgets, maybe even
the RequestFactory). I wish I had more time to look into this.

   Philippe

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Thomas Broyer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 9 juil, 11:31, "marius.andreiana" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Hi GWT developers,
>>
>> There are some concerns on 2.1 MVP approach, which have been raised
>> herehttp://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/threa...
>> and 
>> herehttp://groups.google.com/group/gwt-platform/browse_thread/thread/862c...
>>
>> To summarize, here are some quotes:
>> * It's extremely fast to build an initial scaffold (CRUD for all
>> entities), but I'm not sure how easy it is to customize it for real
>> world usage
>> * When skimming the generated sources I saw A LOT of artifacts, which
>> I don't feel comfortable with because it means that although
>> "officially" my code is not coupled with Roo, if I were to drop it I
>> would have to manage all these generated artifacts myself.
>> * This expenses example is a nightmare to follow.  The bindings/
>> wiring  of all the pieces both client and server is nuts.
>> * In M2, things have been cleaned up a bit
>>
>> I'm just trying to make sure the final MVP implementation will be
>> usable without Roo and without automatic code generation, and will be
>> at least as easy to use and understand as 
>> http://code.google.com/p/gwt-platform/
>> . Otherwise, should it be left as a separate project rather than
>> default GWT approach?
>> What do others, more knowledgeable persons than me, think?
>
> I really do not approach the different features of 2.1 as a whole
> "MVP" set of things: there's
>  - RequestFactory and ValueStore (I don't think ValueStore has any
> real use besides RequestFactory, though I'd be happy to be proved
> wrong) for a record-oriented client-server communication;
>  - Cell-based widgets for efficient data-backed lists, trees and
> tables
>  - PlaceController as typed layer over History (objects rather than
> strings, even though it's not yet plumbed to History, which at least
> proves it can be used without it)
>  - ActivityManager as an "application controller" (to use the term
> from the GWT tutorials) on top of PlaceController
>  - and on top of that, GWT provides some base activities plumbed with
> RequestFactory
>  - and finally, though it's not documented at all, EditorSupport which
> works with UiBinder in a view to generate "data-binding code" (as far
> as I understood)
>
> You're free to use any of them independently of the others.
>
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