On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Jeff Chimene <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 01/21/2011 11:28 AM, Ed wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jeff,
> >
> > Good question.
> >
> > We are looking for a look and feel that GWT provides, also it keeps us
> > from developing js libraries that are custom for delivering the
> > presentation layer which GWT does very well.
> >
> > We are migrating from html template's  to a more modern architecture
> > to give our users a new face. I guese we could of used jQuery to ajax
> > things up.
>
> So there are two selection criteria: AJAX and widgets?
>

Yea, our back-end is java so we have some experience.


> >
> > I think we are wondering if it would be best to stick to plain ol GWT
> > or use something like GWTEXT or some of the other widget libraries.
>
> If you search the list archives, you'll find plenty of opinions on that
> criterion.
>


Just did, thanks based on what i have found, looks like we will stay away
from third party implementations since the release intervals are so close
for GWT.


>
> > The ext libs provide alot of widget functionality, but there has to be
> > some compatibility issues lurking around the corner.
>


> Ibid.
>


> >
> > We have  a working interface now using a combination of GWT and html
> > loaded into an iFrame, which is a worker area for user entry into the db.
> >
> > While we have concentrated on a staged implementation migrating the UI
> > first then we can concentrate on the backend.
>


> Agreed. I think you'll also find the MVP path a useful upgrade. I ported
> an app to GWT from Perl. Splitting out the view implementation proved a
> worthwhile refactoring. You should also investigate Gin. It will prove
> quite helpful when it comes time to mock certain behavior before it's
> ported/rewritten.
>


That is very helpful information,  we were looking at MVP and Gin.
We will  mavenize, we are using ant now.


>
> > Your comment is appreciated, surprising but welcome.  When we
> > investigated migration plans and an update to the legacy system we got
> > stuck on GWT.
>


> It sounds like you've already made the decision to move to GWT. You
> should also consider the development benefits that GWT provides
> (leverage Java to provide a development/testing platform). This means
> installing Eclipse and the Google Plugin for Eclipse.
>
> IMNSHO, you should discard the JS prohibition. It will only prove an
> impediment. Although there is an argument to be made for graceful
> degradation in the absence of JS, it looks as though your app will not
> work as intended in the absence of JS. On that note, you should consider
> the effect this decision will have on your customers who don't/won't
> upgrade their browsers. You may be in for some annoying surprises when
> you discover that your app doesn't function as intended in your
> Important Customer's IE6 browser.
>
>
The school systems are current version for IE in most cases, not many macs
in k-12, the off-site users are on their own, if an off-site user needs to
access the app a suitable browser is required.



> Cheers,
> jec
>
>
Jeff, you pointed us in the right direction:

GWT
MVP
GIN
MAVEN

Now the fun begins.

Take care and Thanks for your comments,
e


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