Thanks, Thomas.  I had read this before, but it hadn't clicked with me.  I 
see now that MyPlace.Tokenizer.getPlace() is called on the back and forward 
arrows. 

After much re-reading, I believe that I've been over-thinking this. There 
doesn't seem to be any place in my current app where getToken() and 
getPlace() need to do anything more complex than acting on the token--just 
return or create a new place with it, no parsing, no rebuilding 
necessary. I'm trying to imagine doing something else, and I don't see it. 

However, I suppose it's possible to "fool" the history by altering the 
token such that the back button takes you somewhere else entirely. Is this 
correct?

On Saturday, March 24, 2012 6:22:43 AM UTC-4, Thomas Broyer wrote:
>
> Have a look there: 
> http://tbroyer.​posterous.com/gwt-21-places-​part-ii<http://tbroyer.posterous.com/gwt-21-places-part-ii>
>
> On Thursday, March 22, 2012 6:04:52 PM UTC+1, Thad wrote:
>>
>> I am trying to understand Places, PlaceTokenizer, and how and when to 
>> parse the token. I read about them, look at examples, watch there 
>> execution, and still I think I'm missing something. (The examples I follow 
>> seem not to fit me--they seem either trivial or too complex to follow.)
>>
>>
>> I have a Place, MyPlace. It may get a null token, or it may get a token 
>> with one or more items--state, id, etc. Examples would be "LIST" or 
>> "SHOW_ID;1234". I read from Thomas that "parsing should be done in a 
>> PlaceTokenizer" (
>> https://groups.google.com/d/​​msg/google-web-toolkit/M5jCI-_​​95mQ/JJcClisInRoJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/M5jCI-_95mQ/JJcClisInRoJ>).
>>  
>> However if when I do my parsing in MyPlace.Tokenizer.getToken(), the 
>> MyPlace that is passed to MyActivity contains the previous values for state 
>> and id. My trace looks like
>>
>>
>> instantiate MyPlace(LIST)
>>
>> AppActivityMapper.getActivity(​​): 
>> com.foo.bar.client.place.​​MyPlace@be4139
>>
>> instantiate MyActivity, place: com.foo.bar.client.place.​​MyPlace@be4139
>>
>> starting MyActivity
>>
>> MyView presenter set
>>
>>
>> It seems that the instantiation method for MyPlace must parse the token 
>> or calls to place.getState() and place.getId() will return values no yet 
>> set.
>>
>>
>> I can see MyPlace.Tokenizer.getToken() being called--though I'm not sure 
>> from where--but place.getState() does not return an updated value unless in 
>> start() wait with Scheduler.get().​​scheduleDeferred() and test the value 
>> in execute().
>>
>>
>> I never see MyPlace.Tokenizer.getPlace() called. What is it used for? 
>> *WHEN* is it used (never from what I see).
>>
>>
>> Currently I'm parsing the token in MyPlace's instantiation method, but it 
>> doesn't feel right.
>>
>>
>> Can anyone clarify this for me?
>>
>

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