I love GRAILS and GWT development.  Grails make hibernate development very 
easy for java guys, and grails has hardly any xml "stuff" to deal with.
www.spotmouth.com is an GWT/Grails combo

On Saturday, August 25, 2012 7:48:12 PM UTC-4, GWTter wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've been doing research on this for the past 2, almost 3 days now. I feel 
> like I've googled everything under the sun on the matter (including these 
> forums) and am almost all tutorialed-out. Before I go into any more details 
> on the question I just want to give a quick overview of the scope and plan 
> for the project to see what will suit it best:
>
> -Large application, non-trivial
> -50+ DB tables
> -Large user base
> -User management/authentication/sessions
> -transactions
> -security
> -MVP (as per GWT recommendation)
> -focus on performance and scalability (naturally :), am using GWT after 
> all)
>
> I've also read and watched all of the best practices on architecture for 
> large applications (Google/GWT).
>
> Now in the last talk I could find on best architecture practices involving 
> GWT was back in 2010 by Ray Ryan in which he states that they don't think 
> JavaBeans and property change events work terribly well so it's better to 
> use DTOs for the Model.
>
> My big questions are if this is still the belief and the recommended 
> route, and if so, what should I be looking at in order to achieve this? a 
> Framework?
>
> My preference would be to keep coding in Java on the serverside since I'm 
> already doing so with GWT on the client. I've been investigating serverside 
> frameworks and seem to have arrive at 2: Seam or Spring? However I can 
> figure out which of these are best suited for the task. All of the doc I've 
> found out there discussing the issue is at the most recent about a year old 
> but most of it is from <=2010 so it makes it even harder to tell 
> considering that both of these frameworks have evolved considerably since 
> then. There's also been the coming of JEE 6.
>
> Can anyone give any insight on who's best suited for the task, or what I 
> should do to fulfill my requirements but stay inline with what is 
> recommended by GWT? I know I only mentioned Seam and Spring since that's 
> what I've been led to mostly, but I'm open to any suggestions that fit what 
> I'm looking for. I've already ruled a couple of solutions such as Spring 
> Roo for this kind of task.
>
> This is my first project of this scale and the last thing I want to do is 
> head down a path and figure out that I've wasted a lot of my and my team's 
> time and energy because of some wrong decisions I made at the get-go.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance for your help, I really just want to figure this 
> out so I can get back to coding instead of googling the ends of the earth 
> ;).
>
> -Seth
>

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