I tend to just always start with an index.html, a reset.css & main.css, and a 
kitchensink.js hah.. and at some point.. that grows.. and then, at some point, 
I migrate it to a GWT structure when I feel all the application logic, event 
bus handling etc warrants it.  

I really like java package structures for my widgets.. it helps my old brain 
out when things get giant.

Sure, I love backbone, and handlebars, and mustache… angular.js is awesome.. 
but I find, most often, that there is "me" and then 15 java people who like 
Spring MVC in the room.. and so I have to migrate to a middle ground for the 
long term productivity of the people.  

Best,
Roger


On Friday, October 5, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Charlie Youakim wrote:

> Thank you Roger.  And thank you for pointing out you love JS.  I think that's 
> an important thing to point out.  The team has many Javascript fans and this 
> kind of thing is important for me to know.
>  
> On Friday, October 5, 2012 1:04:28 PM UTC-4, Roger wrote:
> > So i'd read up on having your PHP services produce JSON, and GWT's use of 
> > RequestBuilder + JavascriptOverlayObjects.  I've put plenty of GWT ui's on 
> > front of rails, grails, php back ends etc.
> >  
> > TO note: I love javascript.. use it all the time for personal projects.. I 
> > just happen to like the blend these days to separate concerns a bit.  
> >  
> > Best,
> > Roger
> >  
> >  
> > On Friday, October 5, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Charlie Youakim wrote:
> >  
> > > Thanks for the early replies.  I also wanted to point out we use PHP on 
> > > the server side, and I'm happy with that.  I feel like our struggles are 
> > > mostly with JS on the client side, which is why I'm looking at GWT.
> > >  
> > > On Friday, October 5, 2012 11:53:17 AM UTC-4, Charlie Youakim wrote:
> > > > I'm deciding on whether to switch my team to GWT.  I think the biggest 
> > > > thing for me as the tech lead for the company is "Are you happy with 
> > > > your choice to use GWT?"
> > > >  
> > > > My reasons for thinking to switch:
> > > >  
> > > > -Javascript is a fast and free language, sometimes too fast and free 
> > > > for a large team.  Coding standards can vary from developer to 
> > > > developer, and maintaining architectures can be difficult
> > > > -Javascript mistakes are only caught in runtime.  The fact that 
> > > > GWT(Java) would catch 90+% of our simple mistakes makes me more 
> > > > confident that our clients won't.
> > > > -Javascript allows for rapid development, but not so rapid bug fixing.
> > > > -Strict Java coding + a strong architecture at the outset creates a 
> > > > great foundation to build from.  I've even seen this in my firm's 
> > > > Android apps.  They are very stable.
> > > >  
> > > > But for me, I'd really like to hear from developers active in the 
> > > > community.  Are you happy?  Or do you wish you went a different route?  
> > > > My goal is to have my dev team work more on new projects rather than 
> > > > fixing old projects.  I am hoping that GWT can help with that.  
> > > > thoughts?
> > > >  
> > > > -Charlie
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