Hi there, 

In an earlier message, I observed that in GWT 2.5, fetching objects always 
load its relationship without the need of .with() notation.  It is said 
that is because I am loading a type extending ValueProxy, who has no 
identity. 

However, this seems to be contradictory to GWT documentation below.  This 
is quite important because I need to verify how much data we are loading 
when we make a call.  

Can someone clarify?  This is a quote from GWT request factory 
documentation. 

"It is also necessary to use the with() method to retrieve any properties 
with types extending ValueProxy. The with() method takes multiple String 
arguments, so you can specify multiple property names at once. To specify 
nested properties, use dot notation."

Thanks,
Yan

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