That's a wrong assumption.
> The whole point of GWT is that you can a) reuse well-tried tools, b)
> benefit from static-typing and c) reuse your code in other environments
> (server-side Java, Android app, iOS app through J2ObjC).
> Nowhere in http://www.gwtproject.org/overview.html or
> http://www.gwtproject.org/makinggwtbetter.html does it say you don't have
> to know JS. It says you don't have to be an expert, but that doesn't mean
> you don't have to know it.
>
>


One more thought on that.

I would prefer that javascript never existed. Seriously. I don't see the
point. I would prefer HTML to be strictly  a document format like Tex or
PDF. If you can go back in time and fix this issue please let me come with
you.

In the real world and not in my fantasy's 'perfect world javascript exists,
and HTML and CSS. Actually multiple versions of the whole soup.

When I saw GWT at first I thought. Good at least I won't have to see these
highly inconsistent , super fragile NIH technologies in my every day life.
GWT will hide them.

And it worked for me for some time. GWT hide them for me. Not perfectly but
good enough - especially if you were actively trying not to look.

With time I got into terms with the reality. js/html/css is the platform.
You can code into higher level languages but there will always be the
syndrome of the leaky abstraction.

My advise is: Get to know your platform. I can understand that the platform
in this case is crazy. I really get it.

In the real world I am grateful that GWT helps me in this madness with bits
of reason like static typing. I am grateful that it doesn't get in the way
when I am trying to interact with the crazy underlying platform and it
gives me hooks from GWT to js and vice versa.

>From my point of view I am in a sea of craziness. GWT is an island of
reason in comparison.

So the browser vendors (part of the crazy platform) went on and removed a
set of API that make DM possible. Does that make sense? Not really. Is that
GWT fault? I don't think so unless browser vendors and GWT vendors are the
same which they are not.



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Vassilis Virvilis

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