Yes, you are certainly correct, currently Google Health is a PHR, not an EHR of some sort. Although one can manage a group of users through their own application that is consuming the Google Health api so it is a bit relative in that regard. These are obviously special cases being discussed.
On Jul 28, 5:18 pm, Bess Ho <[email protected]> wrote: > Use case in Google Health API is for consumer individual and family. Google > Health is not designed for group use. May be Google Health needs to consider > enterprise business product for large group. However many are considering > using Google Health b/c currently the consumer product is free, just like > Gmail account. > > > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Nathan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Larry, > > > It sounds like you are seeking to use Google Health directly versus > > consuming the api in some manner. Through our application we create > > and manage "groups" of users or clinics within our own database. > > Specific user accounts are integrated with Google Health with their > > specific token. So while there is no particular grouping through > > Google Health in relation to our users they are still grouped and > > accessed according to clinic designations in our application. > > > This is very different than a particular user adding another profile > > to their account (ie. mother and her kids) although people can do that > > through our application as well. > > > All of that doesn't alleviate us from the need of bulk Google Health > > accounts that we can attach to our users and in that respect is > > similar to your problem. It does seem however that part of your > > problem can be achieved through applications that use the Google > > Health api while at the same time manage their own user database. > > > -Nathan > > > On Jul 23, 7:08 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > Nathan, > > > > Thanks for the information. The GH model doesn't fit our needs very > > > well without a group structure. Rightfully, the GH model is user > > > centric vs. group centric. While the ability to add a profile for > > > someone else under a single ID addresses the issue, it would be > > > unwieldy for large groups like ours (200K). I'm sure there is a limit > > > as to how many profiles you can add under one ID but I couldn't find a > > > limit documented. In addition, organizing around individual IDs would > > > allow us to transfer ones "medical records" to them when they leave > > > our group. > > > > Hopefully, GH is considering our perspectives. > > > > Larry > > > > On Jul 22, 9:21 am, Nathan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Larry and Paul, > > > > > We are dealing with a bit of the same issue and have worked on a > > > > couple different strategies. Our project is public health related to > > > > the extent that we are engaging users through kiosk stations at > > > > community clinics and are acting as promotoras/concierges for people > > > > in order to connect our service to a Google Health account in order to > > > > increase patient engagement in their health management. > > > > > We have implemented the walk-through information and education pieces > > > > necessary to walk a user through the handshakes required to complete > > > > the process, but this still can be a bit exhaustive for the less tech- > > > > savvy (often less literate as well) user and/or someone working from a > > > > kiosk at the clinic. > > > > > It would be great to have a way to have some bulk accounts available > > > > for easy sign-up that we could use so that promotoras didn't have to > > > > work through the whole process for each person. This would all assume > > > > of course that the enrollee had access to and signed the necessary > > > > Terms and Consents and were explicitly made aware that they were going > > > > to be using Google Health to store their health records. We want to > > > > make sure that people are properly informed especially in regards to > > > > understanding issues of HIPAA, etc..., the thing is that for less tech- > > > > savvy users the current method only seems to cause more confusion. > > > > > I tried contacting Google to see about getting a set of Google App > > > > accounts, but since we are not a non-profit then I was told by agents > > > > that we would have to pay the regular rate per user ($50) which > > > > wouldn't be feasible for what we are trying to accomplish. Tried to > > > > get further help in this regard but couldn't seem to get further > > > > communication on this matter. > > > > > At any rate, it would be great to do some collective thinking on ways > > > > to properly work through this issue and make it viable for public > > > > health projects. Please let me know if there is continued conversation > > > > in this regard. > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Nathan > > > > > On Jul 20, 6:53 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Paul, > > > > > > Thanks for the reply. I was beginning to think that GH was a 20%er. > > > > > > In this particular case it is not possible to direct each individual > > > > > to sign up. This is a special case population that does not have and > > > > > is not allowed access to the Internet. There are about 200,000 > > people > > > > > in this group. > > > > > > If you would like to take this discussion private I can give you a > > > > > little more detail. I'm still very interested in pursuing the notion > > > > > of public health groups using GH. Please advise. > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > On Jul 19, 3:26 pm, "Paul (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Larry, > > > > > > > Thanks for the question, and welcome to the group! > > > > > > > Users of Google services, including Health, are required to agree > > to > > > > > > Google's Terms of Service before their account is created. > > Therefore, > > > > > > we presently don't offer automatic account creation services for > > > > > > Health. Would it be possible for you to direct a user to the > > account > > > > > > creation and Health linkage instructions prior to leaving your > > system? > > > > > > > Paul (Google) > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 2:00 pm, "[email protected]" < > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > We're considering implementing Google Health for a public health > > > > > > > group. We'd like to be able to create a Google Health account > > for > > > > > > > each member, existing and new. When a new person enters the > > system > > > > > > > we'd like to create a new Google Health account and when the > > leave the > > > > > > > system we'd turn the account over to the owner. > > > > > > > > The process for creating new account is simple enough as is the > > turn > > > > > > > over upon exiting the system. The problem I'm facing is the > > > > > > > conversion of several thousand existing members to Google Health. > > I > > > > > > > see no way in any of the APIs to automatically create a Google > > > > > > > (Health) Account, say from an existing list of members. > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to create a Google Health > > > > > > > Account for each of an existing large group of members? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Larry > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google Health Developers" group. > > To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<googlehealthdevelopers%[email protected]> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/googlehealthdevelopers?hl=en. > > -- > Bess Ho > UI Architect / Developer / Designer > iPhone Developer > Silicon Valley Web Builder (SVWB) Founder > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. 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