Thanks, to all.  Much quicker responses than I was expecting.

It's all working now.

I plugged in the ethernet cable to see if I could get any "net"
connection at all.  It was fine.  Than an alert said it needed to
update itself... I clicked OK... it took a while.

Then, I clicked on one of those little icons in the upper right... it
looked like a network symbol... and good things happened.

So maybe it was working all along?

If so, sorry for the trouble.

I pulled the card out and plugged it back in to see if I would get one
of those Windows style alerts that it recognized it...nope.  That, and
the fact that I wasn't on the net made me think that I was getting the
same issue as in my last attempt.

Everything is cool.

My next question was going to be:   So what old computers are the most
Linux friendly?  What wireless cards are good out-of-the-box?

Kelton

On Dec 3, 3:03 pm, mahjongg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Then why not just plug in a WiFi USB dongle that IS fully supported
> with Linux drivers, there are enough to choose from, and they cost a
> pittance these days. Ubuntu has lists of well supported hardware.
>
> the reason there are still such big problems with WiFi adapters even
> these days is that for some of these WiFi chipsets to work, you need
> to upload their internal firmware to them, without that they do
> nothing, they do not contain the firmware in ROM, only a bootloader.
> Problem is, the firmware cannot be distributed freely, and the makers
> of the chipsets do not release any technical information on how the
> firmware works, (or their chipset for that matter) they even go as far
> as encrypting the firmware file that you must upload to the chipset,
> so its impossible to reverse engineer the firmware. Its all done to
> make sure the competition does not "learn their technology". For
> windows this does not matter, because they always write a Windows
> "ndis" driver, that takes care of uploading the firmware, and the
> normal driver functionality, but for Linux they don't see the profit
> in writing a driver, not even in the form of a "non-free" "blackbox"
> driver, so they don't have to release technical details.
>
> The most often used solution is a hack, Linux users use a piece of
> software called a "wrapper", which "wraps" a windows driver for the
> WiFi hardware, so that it thinks it is running on Windows, then you
> can legally use the Windows driver on the driver CD. For WiFi adapters
> the wrapper is called an "ndiswrapper". But gOS does not build in this
> wrapper, so you need to install it yourself, then you need to figure
> out how to extract the Windows driver and firmware from the driver_CD,
> and integrate it in the wrapper, typically you need a textfile that
> tells "ndis" what the particulars of the binary driver are, and the
> binary itself that contains the driver, and the firmware.
>
> from a technical point of view uploadable firmware is old fashioned,
> and was needed when the technology changed rapidly, making regular
> firmware updates necessary, newer WiFi chipsets no longer need
> uploadable firmware, and the makers are often more willing to work
> with Linux programmers to release a Linux compatible driver, some
> companies even write the driver themselves.
>
> On 3 dec, 15:03, CMYanko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > From a Ubuntu standpoint it used to just-work up until 6.10 or 7.04, I
> > forget which but it was when they pulled all of the restricted drivers
> > from the product. Since then, l have fought with every release to get
> > my wireless working, until 8.10 (you're mileage may vary). For me it
> > was a NetGear PCMCIA card.
>
> > If it doesn't work, go get the XP drivers for it and try the Windows
> > Wireless drivers approach. Having said that I just tried,
> > unsuccessfully, that route with gOS. I eventually did some craziness
> > that I wont repeat here now since I don't think people should be
> > trying it just yet.
>
> > On Dec 3, 7:31 am, BehaviorKelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Man, I'm really wanting this Linux thing to happen for me, but every
> > > year I attempt an install... and my old lynksys wireless card doesn't
> > > work.
>
> > > This is a kind of litmus test, I suppose.
>
> > > I want this to work on my old laptop.  I have a new one, but my
> > > interest in Linux has to do with the ability to recycle an old
> > > computer... getting off the new tech bandwagon.... and I want to learn
> > > a bit about the OS.
>
> > > My Linksys wireless card is: Model #:  WPC11 ver. 3   (this is not an
> > > exotic card!)
> > > MAC #: 000625AAEF1A
>
> > > My notebook is: Sony Vaio PCG-FX-A53.
>
> > > I was hoping for something to work "out of the box", but guess not.
>
> > > So I suppose I'll need to get back behind my computer and plug in to
> > > the ethernet cable and get on the net that way in order to find a
> > > driver.  I gotta tell ya, I had no luck last year!
>
> > > Any tips on how to solve this.
>
> > > I have noticed that "My wireless isn't working!"  has got to be the
> > > most common issue in linux forums.
>
> > > Kelton
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