On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Robert Accettura <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Robert O'Callahan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Samuel Sidler <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Friday, July 27, 2012 12:18:38 PM UTC+7, Robert O&#39;Callahan wrote:
> >> > Another question is, &quot;Should Mozilla compel its employees to
> >> &#39;responsible
> >> > disclose&#39; work that was done outside of their Mozilla
> >> employment?&quot;
> >>
> >> If they're going to use Mozilla's name, I think yes. It reflects
> >> incredibly poor on Mozilla and hurts its reputation.
> >>
> >
> > Perhaps so. However, in this case I can't tell that Mozilla's name was
> used
> > in any way beyond the statement of biographical fact that the speaker is
> > currently a Mozilla employee.
> >
> > I appreciate that such nuances are likely to be lost in the brutish
> > discourse of the Internet.
>
>
>
> This is a very valid point.  I can add a little more to that.  I know
> from past experience journalists sometimes will just grab the employer
> or association of an individual (provided that relationship can be
> authenticated as factual) to improve credibility. How does that factor
> in?  In the past I've personally even contacted one and asked them to
> remove it when I thought it was completely unnecessary and unrelated.
>
> When I read the coverage, I personally assumed it was outside of
> official work and the reference of the employer was just to make the
> subject more credible by using a well known association (employer).
> But I might be bias, so I'll just leave it at that.
>
> As I understand it, this stuff is the bane of many HR and corporate
> communications dept's in many companies.
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This did leave me uneasy when I read it. I assume that Cody's employer had
control over the process of informing the employer and what to do with the
information. However. Mozilla is a community of people, and the culture of
Mozilla depends on the attitudes of its community members. I think it does
reflect poorly if Mozilla employees don't respect responsible disclosure
policies. I think Mozilla's attitude towards security problems is a huge
part of our culture. How open source handles security issues vs proprietary
software has been a way we try to set ourselves apart and how we promote
open source as better. So in that sense I think the article does reflect on
Mozilla's reputation.

But like I said there is probably more to the story. I'm not trying to say
Cody did something wrong, I have no idea. Just that's why the article made
me uncomfortable and it might be good for Mozilla to fill in the pieces.
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