I think Ruben's suggestion is that since the reps program helps support and organize contributors globally the reps program could present the framework for getting feedback from the community at large. The wiki is a bit outdated, but it still didn't mention the recruitment factor in the program. When you represent Mozilla the end goal of course is to recruit new contributors and community members. Not just go out and speak or set up booths. So the reps program is really a network of community leaders, though you don't have to be a rep to be a community leader.
I believe the context of the general discussion is the identified priorities for the year. Of course we can't just have all the volunteers drop everything and only contribute to those priorities or there will be nothing innovative waiting in the wings. We also need to remember that skills and interest come into play. You can't necessarily take a volunteer off of one project and put them on another. Someone who enjoys doing QA may not enjoy doing support, even though they can be quite similar. I think the real answer is figuring out how to have MoCo goals and priorities coexist with supporting an autonomous volunteer community. In fact I think that is the role MoCo fills that justifies itself. It fills gaps that a volunteer based community can create. I think we need to make sure the existence of employees is enhancing, not excluding volunteer contributions. The manifesto is the ultimate priority. Every piece of the Mozilla community has their own priorities for how they will achieve the goals laid out by the manifesto. MoCo should be seen as a piece of the community along-side of, not on top of the other pieces. As for the rest of your point, how to get volunteers in on the discussions, I think that is about openness. If the teams are open with each other, and listen to their volunteer teammates as well as their paid teammates then the points of view will naturally be taken into consideration. It sounds like you're saying Mozilla either doesn't take volunteer opinions as seriously because they're "sensitive" or they are not included in hard discussions to avoid upsetting them (I have seen both happen)? Not being part of the mozcamp session I may be misinterpreting a bit of the original post so please correct me if I have. -Majken Connor On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Rubén Martín <[email protected]>wrote: > El 12/09/12 00:09, David Bruant escribió: > > We as "the whole Mozilla community which includes volunteers and >>> >employees" (all of us) and them as "volunteers' communities". >>> >> I understand but disagree, why are these 2 different groups? >> > The whole Mozilla community includes volunteers and employees. Volunteers > communities are part of this global group. I don't see the problem here, we > are all in the same boat which is what you said before. > > >Reps are by definition leaders inside Mozilla, they know really well >>> >about the values and mission and want to take a step forward. >>> >> I quoted 2 pages of the wiki and what you're saying is not part of any >> of these pages. From the wiki, Reps represent Mozilla in the world. >> Either the wiki is outdated or it isn't part of the Reps program. >> It seems that what I'm describing is somewhat a group of people who >> represent volunteers instead of the current Reps which role is to >> represent Mozilla in the world. Maybe both group can be the same people. >> Maybe it's worth having them separate. I need to think about it more but >> for now, I tend to think having them separated is more relevant since >> the role of each group is decently different. >> >> Check https://reps.mozilla.org/**about/<https://reps.mozilla.org/about/> > > > Regards. > > -- > Rubén Martín [Nukeador] > Mozilla Reps Council Member > http://www.mozilla-hispano.org > http://twitter.com/mozilla_**hispano <http://twitter.com/mozilla_hispano> > http://facebook.com/**mozillahispano <http://facebook.com/mozillahispano> > > ______________________________**_________________ > governance mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/**listinfo/governance<https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance> > _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
