Mike, I think if Gerv excludes people who make anti-LGBT statements, he's pretty much barring 90% of the messages coming in. It hurts to see anti-LGBT sentiments, but we need to hear from people who are stating how they feel and why.
I will argue that while the *sentiments* are being carried into the activities, *support* for those sentiments are not. Gerv is not *supporting* anti-LGBT beliefs by letting the messages go through. Comparing to Nazis/Socialists/Fascists/pedophiles and ad hominem attacks are not allowed because they do not follow "Interaction Style", which among other things, bars personal attacks. As the interaction style says, "Don’t expect to agree with every decision." And yes, every mention of "the gay agenda" irks me. I've seen lots of disturbing things and had to personally invoke Godwin's Law 4 times in directed discussions. But I defend their right to say it. -Sheeri Cabral Manager, Systems DB Team Senior DB Admin/Architect Mozilla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Connor" <[email protected]> To: "Gervase Markham" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 10:50:56 AM Subject: RE: Moderation policy Gerv, I don't think this goes nearly far enough. There's still content coming through that's openly anti-LGBT. That's simply not acceptable. (CPG: "support for exclusionary practices must not be carried into Mozilla activities.") I appreciate that you're trying to not censor a difficult discussion, but we have the CPG for a reason, and I'd ask that we clearly adhere to those in any moderation policy. -- Mike -----Original Message----- From: governance [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gervase Markham Sent: April 7, 2014 10:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Moderation policy On 06/04/14 16:32, Gervase Markham wrote: > I will try and write a moderation response which I can send to people > whose posts I'm refusing, to explain. At the moment, they are just > going in the bin. Here it is; comments welcomed. Gerv Hi, My name's Gerv; I'm the moderator of the mozilla.governance forum. We are currently getting a lot of email from understandably angry people about what happened with regard to Brendan Eich. I am attempting to moderate the discussion in a way which allows everyone to have a voice, while keeping things at least vaguely civil. There are not many moderation rules; they are: * No posts making comparisons to Nazis, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot etc. Google for "Godwin's Law". * No comparisons of particular behaviour with paedophilia. * No posts whose sole content is effectively "me, too". See http://input.mozilla.org/ . Inside those guidelines, everyone gets one top-level post to give their opinion, and anyone who engages constructively with others is welcome to contribute and make replies. If you are getting this email, it's because your post didn't meet one or more of the above guidelines. We have no wish to censor anyone, and we think the above give ample scope for expression (including expressions of anger and frustration). We hope you will consider resubmitting a modified form of your post and then listening to those who reply to it. With thanks for your appreciation of the difficulties I am facing here, Gervase Markham (Author of http://blog.gerv.net/2014/04/your-ire-is-misdirected/ ) _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
