On 6/11/2015 8:37 PM On a whim, Majken Connor pounded out on the keyboard
We're intertwining a few different topics here. We've been focusing on the
appropriateness of the campaign, but I think the real issue underlying this
argument has been about controlling what children are seeing.
No, I made one reference to children and others here focused on it. It
was a good way to discuss another topic. My original post was comments
sent to the webmaster, by adults.
Different parents are sensitive to different things. I was not sensitive to
my kids being exposed to swearing, but I was sensitive to the amount of
violence that is allowed in commercials in day-time tv. Whether or not this
campaign is inappropriate (we have a difference of opinion here) it just
isn't practical for a parent to expect society to protect their children
from everything they find objectionable or age-inappropriate, because not
everyone has the same definition of objectionable.
Deflecting from the Subject. But on THIS issue, too many children today
are not being raised at all. Single parents, working parents, who
didn't have their parents guide them, are doing exactly the same. How
often have I seen a young person hold the door open for someone behind
them? Rarely. Or say "Thank you" when someone holds it open for them?
Rarely. I'm surprised how many young people don't even know how to
hold a fork and knife properly. So no, there isn't a lot of anything
being taught to children today.
The default pages aren't static and there will be different messages and
suggestions on them from time to time. Separately from which parents are
comfortable with what, if someone wants to be in control of what their
children see, they can change the default home page and the default new tab
page.
Yes. The Start Page has upset a lot of users over the years. Whether
it's blinking or animated graphics, or annoying ads, Mozilla uses it to
put out their agenda, which mainly appears to be asking for donations,
or get others to use the browser so Mozilla can profit from it.
Comparatively, I do not see that from Microsoft or Google, but then
they're not in need of users to stay alive. The point is, just because
it's open source and by a quasi-non-profit, doesn't mean the Start Page
is there solely for Mozilla's benefit.
Yes, users could change the home page, which requires making changes
that a surprising amount of users don't/won't do. When Firefox was my
browser of choice, I had a Home page of my choice, but answering user
questions required going back to default settings in order to understand
their issues and complaints.
What would be much more effective, would be to have a button on the
Start Page that when clicked allows all Mozilla ads to be removed,
except for the search box. And make sure that updates did not remove
the users settings.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:57 PM,<[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/11/2015 2:16 PM On a whim, Reuben Morais pounded out on the keyboard
On Jun 11, 2015 18:01,<[email protected]> wrote:
For a lot of Non-English speaking locales, this becomes a non-issue
altogether, in my opinion.
Is this campaign being translated everywhere using the same words?
No. "Fox Yeah" is about as untranslatable as it gets, and is only being
used for English locales.
Then the "non-English... non-issue" comment is meaningless.
Other locales get "When it's personal, #ChooseFirefox", Firefox Hello,
Pocket, promotion of add-on collections related to local events, etc.
-- reuben
Which would be an acceptable slogan in any language. And yet, someone
chose to use verbiage in English completely unrelated to what everyone else
in the world is seeing.
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