Russ is correct in that the data is your own and that you are free to share it; 
however, the Clarity data model is Epic's IP. I.e., if you want to share the 
format of the resultant data set (or the data itself) among your peers then we 
have no concerns with that, but if you want to share SQL code that directly 
references the Clarity data model then we would ask that you do so in an 
appropriate manner.

Here are two appropriate ways that organizations have followed in the past:

1.       Directly send the SQL scripts between two organizations using a secure 
communication mechanism (this is assuming both organizations are members of the 
Epic community)

2.       Upload the SQL scripts to the Report 
Repository<https://documentation.epic.com/DataHandbook/Reports/ReportSearch> on 
Epic's UserWeb where any member of the Epic community can securely login and 
access them (here's an example 
script<https://documentation.epic.com/DataHandbook/Reports/Details/9000129>)

If these methods are unacceptable for one reason or another then please let me 
know your concerns. I'm happy to work with you to figure out something that 
will meet your needs and allow us to fulfill our obligations to protect our IP.

Rob Szymanski | Cogito R&D  | Epic

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
daniella meeker
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:00 AM
To: Campbell, James R
Cc: Waitman Russ; Rob Szymanski; STANDARDS GPC; Brown Jeff; Nancy Smider; Don 
Torok ([email protected]); Mark Khayter ([email protected]); Kahn, Michael 
([email protected]); Patrick Ryan ([email protected]); Murphy Shawn; 
Apathy Nate; McClay, James C
Subject: Re: Epic ETL repo

I suppose that one solution might be to take a similar approach that we do to 
PHI, replacing epic table and field names with hash where encryption keys are 
only available to epic/clarity clients.

This seems equal or lesser in risk as Epic's vulnerability to adversaries that 
might be interested in hacking healthcare databases. Fortunatly for the sake of 
privacy, most adversaries would find themselves as discombobulated as normal 
humans when confronted with Clarity for the first time.


On Tuesday, August 5, 2014, Campbell, James R 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Daniella
Epic has offered to host the ETL repository.  It will be behind the Epic 
Userweb firewall.

Russ thinks that it is not Epic's intellectual property,  our data is our own, 
and we should host it on PCORI or Babel.  I am frankly uncertain as to proper 
resolution of the issue.

I am copying the principals in this exchange because we at Nebraska have lots 
of work to share with the community as well.  I would like to decide where we 
will do that.
Jim

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On Aug 5, 2014, at 2:01 PM, "Meeker, Daniella" 
<[email protected]<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
Hi Jim,

Do we have an Epic-sanctioned repository for ETL documents from Clarity? We 
have a github account for internal circulation, but you mentioned that Epic 
would not be friendly to this.

Don and Mark have made significant progress in ETL from one of our Clarity 
instances to OMOP, and I'd like to share them with others in the community. 
Some interesting things have come up for the PCORnet use case - for example, 
how to record the location of a visit if it might be used for recruiting 
purposes.

Thanks,

Daniella



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