It was my impression and UMN's recommendation to not include dispensed
since we only have inpatient dispensed medications

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On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Nathan Graham <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Phillip,
>
>
>
> Regarding the medication modifiers: The modifiers weren’t showing up in
> the KU hierarchy because of an oversight/bug which I’ve addressed (er,
> manually fixed up) – see ticket 37 comment 16
> <https://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/trac/Project/ticket/37#comment:16>.
>
>
>
> As for GPC medications, there aren’t any modifiers on Babel at this time.
> I guess I didn’t realize that we had decided on what medication modifiers
> we needed to support for GPC.   It looks like the CDM v2 draft has a
> “dispensing” table but I’m not sure it aligns with the KU modifier
> “dispensed”.  The CDM says “outpatient pharmacy dispensing…not commonly
> captured within healthcare systems”.  At KU, the “dispensed” modifier
> basically comes from the “ORDER_DISP_INFO” table Clarity Data Dictionary
> says: “This table contains dispense information for orders” but as I
> understood it, we (KU) don’t have outpatient pharmacy information.  I
> thought we had a discussion about dispensed medications with respect to the
> CDM but I wasn’t able to find record of it in the meeting notes from the
> past few weeks.  It’s entirely possible I’m missing something right now.
>
>
>
> I wonder if I should just include all the modifiers we have at KUMC?  Or
> does that add more complexity than we need/want?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Nathan
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>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Dan Connolly
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:13 PM
> *To:* Phillip Reeder
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: GPC Terminology V1
>
>
>
> Yes, it's good to get these details nailed down, Phillip.
>
> The GPC standard for demographics has never been quite baked. We have
> never closed #67
> <https://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/trac/Project/ticket/67>. Yes, I hope
> we can converge on what *Hubert* uploads, and I hope he uploads it soon.
> I didn't negotiate a specific date with him, but I sure hope it's in the
> next few days.
>
> I'm not sure what's up with modifiers on babel, but we've seen problems
> with that in the past. I heard *Nathan* say he made a note to look into
> it. I hope the problem is just on babel and if you download the CSV from
> the central desktop and deploy it locally, you'll get the modifiers.
>
> Vitals in babel are labelled "GPC: Clinical measurements". Your question
> suggests that's not very usable. Note that #23
> <https://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/trac/Project/ticket/23> has been
> re-opened because Jim C. plans to (have *Hubert*) update some details of
> the LOINC mapping.
>
> Yes, the tumor registry should get the same treatment as the rest. Russ
> and Nathan and I have said "yes, we should do that" a few times; I just
> promoted it to a ticket: #185
> <https://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/trac/Project/ticket/185>.
>
>
> --
> Dan
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Phillip Reeder [[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:53 PM
> *To:* Dan Connolly
> *Subject:* GPC Terminology V1
>
> Dan,
>
> Based on today’s call,  I want to make sure that I understand where we are
> on the 5 terminologies we are targeting for Milestone data-domains2.
>
>
>
> Demographics – Are we using the PCORI Demographics, plus "age in days"?
> I’m not clear on what the GPC standard is but maybe when Hubert uploads his
> piece to babel it will be more clear.  Is there a date for this?
>
> Diagnosis - ICD9 Hierarchy built in babel,  Approved.
>
> Medications - Medication Hierarchy built in babel.  I think the modifiers
> still need to be added to this hierarchy.
>
> Vitals - Is there a proposed GPC vital signs terminology?  I’m not seeing
> it in Babel.
>
> Tumor Registry - We are all using the same KU code so we should, in
> theory, have the same paths/codes.  But since the terminology is generated
> from the data, is there a chance we won’t see all possible values from a
> given site?  Can someone produce a GPC Tumor Registry terminology as the
> standard and put it on Babel as GPC:Tumor Registry?  Or as an interim way
> to show it, maybe just duplicate KUMC’s terminology and put GPC before it
> so we see that it’s there.
>
>
>
> Does my understanding seem correct as to where we are?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phillip
>
>
>
> Feel free to reply to the group, or just to me if I’m way off:).
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