Our plans are a little rough in this area. We have a closely related ticket 
scheduled for our March 16 release, but it's assigned to me, and I'm struggling 
to fit ETL development time in between project management stuff. The ticket was 
opened May 2015 and it has slipped releases 9 times since then. :-/

--
Dan

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From: Phillip Reeder [[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 3:55 PM
To: Dan Connolly
Cc: Larose, Eric R; [email protected]
Subject: Re: SCILHS i2b2 to CDM on Oracle

I'd vote to go ahead and make the required schema and ETL changes. But I don't 
want to do so if the GPC/KUMC/etc are not going to do the same.

The alternative would be for someone to maintain a GPC fork of the code. Or 
create some additional SQL to create a view with those schema changes.

What's the KUMC timeline for trying this out?

Phillip

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On Feb 10, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Dan Connolly 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

At 
HackathonThree<https://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/trac/Project/wiki/HackathonThree>
 we considered our evaluation of the SCILHS approach 
(#381<https://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/trac/Project/ticket/381>) and decided 
yes, it looks good. We considered the patient dimension stuff (e.g. Sep 18 
comment<https://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/trac/Project/ticket/191#comment:15>).
 On the one hand, the entire “SCILHS i2b2 CDM Documentation v2.0.2.pdf” 
document was available to any of us who wanted to look before we made our 
decision, but I don't believe we considered this INOUT_CD stuff in particular, 
so we could look at it as new information that we could use to reconsider the 
decision (ref: decision 
process<https://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/trac/Project/wiki/DataRepositoryManagement#design-process>).

Any preferences?

As to KUMC, we plan to give the SCILHS code a whirl and open specific issues as 
and when we find them... preferably upstream in the 
i2p-transform<https://github.com/SCILHS/i2p-transform> repository.

--
Dan

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From: 
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[[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
on behalf of Phillip Reeder 
[[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 2:37 PM
To: Larose, Eric R
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: SCILHS i2b2 to CDM on Oracle

Dan/Russ,
>From a GPC perspective, are we adopting this as the new standard?  It involves 
>modifying our i2b2 ETL processes and adding columns to tables. I want to make 
>sure everyone is on board.

Phillip
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On Feb 10, 2016, at 2:07 PM, Larose, Eric R 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Our Encounter Types were in our INOUT_CD, so those worked correctly for us.  
This would definitely be frustrating if not the case.

Those other columns are mentioned about being added in the “SCILHS i2b2 CDM 
Documentation v2.0.2.pdf” document on the MSSQL side.  Not sure if these 
directions were in Oracle instructions or not.  For us, we don’t have discharge 
information, so these were going to be null values for use anyway.

Mapping Encounters
We anticipate sites will need to ETL additional encounter information to meet 
PCORI
requirements. We expect this data, except for DRGs, will be stored as 
additional columns in
the visit_dimension table . This is detailed in the 
SCILHS_Encounter_ETL_Guidance_v11.xslx
spreadsheet. See especially the red columns (new columns) and the yellow 
columns (existing
columns, but potentially new data required).
SQL code to add the columns (in MSSQL format) is below:
ALTER TABLE [dbo].[VISIT_DIMENSION]
ADD [DRG] varchar(50) NULL,
[DISCHARGE_STATUS] varchar(25) NULL,
[DISCHARGE_DISPOSITION] varchar(25) NULL,
[LOCATION_ZIP] varchar(25) NULL,
[ADMITTING_SOURCE] varchar(25) NULL,
[FACILITYID] varchar(25) NULL,
[PROVIDERID] varchar(25) NULL

Thanks,
Eric LaRose
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From: Phillip Reeder [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 1:19 PM
To: Larose, Eric R; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: SCILHS i2b2 to CDM on Oracle

For the pmnencounter table, It assumes ENCTYPE is in the INOUT_CD field of the 
visit_dimension.  Not the case for us.  Also, where are 
DISCHARGE_STATUS,DISCHARGE_DISPOSITION, ADMITTING_SOURCE supposed to come from? 
 Are these added into the visit_dimension table somewhere in the SCILHS 
process?  I have them in my observation_fact table, but the query seems to 
think they should be in the visit dimension or something.  I can’t see how that 
query would run on SQL server either.

 Is there some additional code somewhere to add these into the visit dimension 
that I’m missing?  I’m stuck.

Phillip


From: <Larose>, Eric R 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 1:13 PM
To: Phillip Reeder 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: RE: SCILHS i2b2 to CDM on Oracle

Thanks for your feedback Phillip.

#2 got me digging a little deeper.  I had mapped these to our local codes like 
needed, but the script to generate the CDM doesn’t fully utilize the metadata 
table for its logic (the IN vs. LIKE issue you mentioned).  It is making some 
assumptions as to how these local mappings are being filled.  It looks like 
what we currently have for race and sex ended up with a NI for all of the 
records.  I’ve yet to discuss with Laurel, but we will likely be updating the 
local mappings with this in mind and re-run.

For SQL server it didn’t generate any errors when running (that I had seen 
anyways), but it definitely didn’t produce the results that we want for those.

Good catch!

Thanks,
Eric LaRose
x93591

From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Phillip Reeder
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 12:13 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: SCILHS i2b2 to CDM on Oracle

Has anyone else attempted the SCILHS i2b2 to CDM code on Oracle?  I’m focusing 
on the demographics table to start with have run into a few things I wanted to 
share.

#1)  SCILHS relies on the patient_dimension for the demographics, not the 
observation_fact.  Just something to be aware of, not really a problem as long 
as you have the patient_dimension built out.
#2)  The demographics ontology has some rows that use the IN for the operator 
and some rows that use like.  But the code only works for the race/sex where it 
is using “IN” as the operator.  I added a where race.c_operator=‘IN’ , 
sex.c_operator=‘IN’ , hisp.c_operator=‘IN’ where necessary to avoid the oracle 
error.
#3) For Hispanic, the code is only looking at the race_cd.  This only give you 
‘Yes’ or 'No-Information’ as values.   I think it would make more sense to move 
the ethnicity information to an ethnicity_cd column.

Anyone else working with the i2b2 to CDM on Oracle code?  Just wondering if 
there are any other changes you’ve had to make to get it working.

Thanks,
Phillip



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