Thank you, Russ, for clarifying the supplemental report request was cancelled 
as of Wednesday, Aug 28.

I confess I am grumpy as getting ready for vacation, and I stayed up late last 
night to prepare to get this done today, before I go.

However, Query Fulfillment (QF) has been steadily communicating with those of 
us responsible to execute queries, about this request “package”.  On Thursday, 
Aug 29, we received an email from QF that began, ”I am reaching out with an 
update regarding the PCORI Descriptives query (pcori_pmp_wp003).  We greatly 
appreciate your feedback regarding query execution and the run times seen at 
your DataMarts.  … “.  It continued to discuss issues with the SAS query they 
sent.  It said NOTHING about cancelling the Supplemental Report, while they 
have communicated a few times about the supplemental report separately, which 
had its own independent due date of Sept 9.  (Not to mention the mystery that 
the supplemental report included data that was available in our CDMs – all but 
the Census Region breakdowns that were based on zipcodes or state – and did not 
explain denominators well enough to compose a query.)

I won’t include Query Fulfillment or DRNOC on this email, since it appears you 
have been talking with them about this specific request.  I am hoping you agree 
and can express to them, in the spirit of constructive criticism, that they 
should communicate status and specifics of the data requests from sites with 
the sites directly as has been the operating protocol.  I suspect someone was 
in a hurry to get the results, but it looks like this is a good lesson to 
follow SOPs for best performance in this large network of data and the people 
that make that happen.

Thanks,
Susan
Susan Rea, Medical Informaticist
Data Administrator, PCORnet Intermountain
Enterprise Analytics
Intermountain Healthcare
801-507-9407 (office) / 801-694-6343 (cell)









From: Gpc-dev <gpc-dev-boun...@listserv.kumc.edu> On Behalf Of Russ Waitman
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 10:15 AM
To: GPC-DEV@LISTSERV.KUMC.EDU
Subject: FW: PCORnet Descriptive Query & Supplemental Table [ACTION REQUIRED]

WARNING: Stop. Think. Read. This is an external email.
Discussed on call today

From: Russ Waitman
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 12:41 PM
To: Taylor, Bradley (btay...@mcw.edu<mailto:btay...@mcw.edu>) 
<btay...@mcw.edu<mailto:btay...@mcw.edu>>; 
roush.steff...@marshfieldresearch.org<mailto:roush.steff...@marshfieldresearch.org>
Subject: RE: PCORnet Descriptive Query & Supplemental Table [ACTION REQUIRED]

Looks like we have a reprieve!  Thanks everyone for the feedback,

Russ

From: PCORnet Query Fulfillment <q...@pcornet.org<mailto:q...@pcornet.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 12:18 PM
To: PCORnet DRN OC <dr...@pcornet.org<mailto:dr...@pcornet.org>>
Cc: PCORnet 2.0 PIs 
<pcornet2.0...@pcornet.org<mailto:pcornet2.0...@pcornet.org>>; 2.0 DataMart 
Administrators 
<2.0datamartadministrat...@pcornet.org<mailto:2.0datamartadministrat...@pcornet.org>>;
 Darcy Louzao, Ph.D. <darcy.lou...@duke.edu<mailto:darcy.lou...@duke.edu>>; 
Sturtevant,Jessica 
<jessica_sturtev...@harvardpilgrim.org<mailto:jessica_sturtev...@harvardpilgrim.org>>;
 Keith Marsolo <keith.mars...@duke.edu<mailto:keith.mars...@duke.edu>>; Kshema 
<kshema_nagav...@harvardpilgrim.org<mailto:kshema_nagav...@harvardpilgrim.org>>;
 Forrest, Christopher B 
<forre...@email.chop.edu<mailto:forre...@email.chop.edu>>; Maryan Zirkle 
<mzir...@pcori.org<mailto:mzir...@pcori.org>>
Subject: Re: PCORnet Descriptive Query & Supplemental Table [ACTION REQUIRED]

Dear PCORnet Colleagues,

I am reaching out with an update regarding the Supplemental Table Request.  We 
greatly appreciate your feedback and concerns regarding the Supplemental table 
.   Based on this feedback we feel it is no longer necessary for you to 
complete this table.

While no further action is required from your DataMart at this time, we 
appreciate your patience and continued collaboration.

Please do not hesitate to reach out with any questions.

Best,
Kshema Nagavedu - on behalf of the DRNOC QF Team


On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:53 PM PCORnet DRN OC 
<dr...@pcornet.org<mailto:dr...@pcornet.org>> wrote:
Hello PCORnet Colleagues,

Two follow-up items related to the PCORI Descriptive Query (pcori_pmp_wp003):


  1.  Recently the DRN OC team asked DataMarts to hold on submitting the 
supplemental table, a part of the PCORI Descriptive Query (pcori_pmp_wp003), so 
that we could address questions received from multiple network partners. The 
v03 attached supplemental table for this descriptive query has been revised to 
reflect responses to these questions and clarifications regarding the type of 
output to be returned to the DRN OC.  Please return the completed supplemental 
table to DRN OC (dr...@pcornet.org<mailto:dr...@pcornet.org>) by COB on 
September 9th, 2019.



  1.  As a number of DataMarts have noted that they are encountering very long 
program execution times, we ask that you contact DRN OC Query Fulfillment 
q...@pcornet.org<mailto:q...@pcornet.org> and we would be happy to help with 
troubleshooting and/or providing a modified query package to break up the size 
of the program.  The DRN OC QF team will also work to break up packages of this 
size moving forward to avoid DataMarts encountering issues with execution times 
for distributed queries.

Thank you for your help in completing the PCORI descriptive query supplemental 
table and for working with us to benchmark program/query size and execution 
time.  If there are any questions, please reach out to QF at 
q...@pcornet.org<mailto:q...@pcornet.org>.

Sincerely,
Kshema Nagavedu on behalf of the DRN OC QF Team


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