Yes I know you would not do it but for those of us using the product and
considering upgrading it makes a lot of sense and I do not think they would
be so stupid as to leave themselves open to deliberately and illegally going
against the very detailed signed agreements/documents they insist are sent
before doing the trial conversion.   The agreement does not allow
de-identfified data to be used in any way. It relates purely to the testing
of data send to see if there are any problems with upgrading.

I do not expect you to accept such a signed agreement but as I said for
those using the product it would save endless headaches before they upgrade.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Horst Herb
Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2005 7:50 PM
To: General Practice Computing Group Talk
Subject: Re: [GPCG_TALK] SQL Server Express webcast

On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:23, Dr John Van Dyck wrote:
> Why not sent the data to HCN as requested (with proper disclaimers) and
get
> them to do a trial conversion to pinpoint any problems before even
> attempting the conversion?

Personally, I'd rather go back to paper before I would ever consider letting
a 
company known to have had commercial data exchange (even if "de-identified")

with the pharmaceutical industry.

HCN is a shareholder company, isn't it? They are not bound by ethical 
constraints - they are in fact obliged by LAW to do ANYTHING within legal 
limits to maximize shareholders value.

I think most of us would agree that current legal limits don't intersect
much 
with our professional ethics ... Meaning that even operating entirely within

the law, they could act very much to the detriment of our patients and even 
*have to* if this is both profitable and legal.

Horst
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