Dr Hugh Nelson wrote:
This is an important point.
HIC were obsessed with getting GP's to do something that would save the HIC money - so much so that our clinic got set up with individual PKI keys and usb dongles and the HIC staffperson didn't think it was necessary to arrange for a Location Certificate. Of course, a location certificate is the one to use if you are sending clinical information securely.

He must have been green, they've always been needed. Now the individual certificates aren't for MA Online.

If the HIC had worked from the start to enable better clinical communications, then we would all be on board by now.

Hugh,

Except for the LDAP issues and revocation certificates, etc. that come with X509.

It all works fine when many users are communicating with one provider, eg. MA Online or your path/radiology provider with XXX doctors receiving reports, so that one central body is either the sender or receiver.

However, that avoids most of the LDAP authentication issues. When you get to many-to many transmissions with stuff going both ways a proper LDAP system needs to come into play, and these don't really exist yet. the hub-and spoke guys like Promedicus and Healthlink overcome this by requiring their users to have only one certificate other than their own - the provider's.

But they are proprietary, and HeSA/MA wouldn't touch that as they are back to square-one with an IBA-like dependence on a carrier. You may recall, possibly have even tried to read, the original HIC Online 130 page contract documents, that stated, among other things, that you were bound to upload fresh revocation lists every week. No-one does that as they don't need to, but with many-to-many you do need to for both security and getting messages where you want.

It has been illuminating setting up HIC/MA Online, Promedicus and Healthlink over the last year or so, with their various certificate requirements. In October it was necessary for MA online users to update Mr's own certificates. MA fudged it by allowing to continue use of out-of-date certificates. There is lots of 'hidden' support overheads in this stuff

Many-to-many is much harder than most think, I'd suggest.

Greg
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