So well said Andrew. We have spent so much time and effort attending conferences where they are just talkfests where nothing comes of them.
My impression at the MSIA AGM last meeting was that they would tell us exactly what they wanted us to do and we would then conform. As far as I can see they are just holding up the show. David de Bhál Virtual Practice. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew N. Shrosbree Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:48 PM To: General Practice Computing Group Talk Subject: Re: [GPCG_TALK] NEHTA has published its Interoperability Frameworkv1.0for comment. Oliver, I have just waded through this tome and have a few opinions. These should be taken more as personal observations rather than a litany of criticisms, because I genuinely applaud NEHTA'S efforts to define the context within which they will be defining interoperability standards. That said, I have a sense that this document was written by a committee, whose motto is not "build it, and they will come", but rather "talk about it and they will follow". Yes, it gives a very thorough description of the framework within which NEHTA sees itself operating, defining a common nomenclature and contextual framework. It is also a good example of what you get when people are not required to work according to a commercial deadline, to produce something that actually works (or are being paid by the hour). As an experienced user of software design patterns, I appreciate the need to have a conceptual framework for software design. What the people who depend upon me for though is working solutions, in non-geological time. Multi-modular computer applications may start out with a statement of intent, but many evolve their little rules and regulations as the system grows in response to user needs. What this NEHTA document attempts to define is all the possible compliance and conformance rules to be faced by anybody who embraces SOA. Only by section 5 did I feel it was starting to come alive, because the academic waffle provides a diaphanous framework against which one could not possibly hope to benckmark a real, concrete software design. I'm happy to give NEHTA the benefit of the doubt for the moment, but I long for the day when somebody actually produces a few solid, open source components that demonstrate conformance to their standards in way that is easy to benchmark. In this document NEHTA have still not produced something that we, the developers who must build the blocks, can use as any sort of guide. This is not a standard - it is a statement of the context within which a standard will be defined. In short: this may be well received at academic conferences, but is no bloody good to me yet. This document is of even less use to consumers of IT services, like you. But I guess it's a start, because it directs our communal gaze towards the same point of light in the heavens. Oliver wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David More >Sent: Monday, 3 April 2006 10:36 AM > >If you browse the document you will see the "common enterprise language" is a high level description of how language is to be used for interoperation between health care entities - it is not to do with programming languages I don't think - if that was what you were asking. > >**************** > >I didn't understand very much of the document in terms of what it means for us in general practice communicating with patients, each other or with the rest of the health system. > >Can somebody who believes that they do understand what this document says please at some point give us a one page summary of how they think it may influence developments in information systems that GPs use? > >Oliver Frank, general practitioner >255 North East Road, Hampstead Gardens >South Australia 5086 >Ph. 08 8261 1355 Fax 08 8266 5149 > >_______________________________________________ >Gpcg_talk mailing list >[email protected] >http://ozdocit.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpcg_talk > > > -- Andrew N. Shrosbree B.Sc, B.Ec Technical Director ArgusConnect Pty Ltd http://www.argusconnect.com.au Suite 4, Greenhill Centre, Mt Helen Victoria, Australia Tel: +61 (0)3 5335 2214 Mob: +61 (0)415 645 291 Skype: andrewshroz _______________________________________________ Gpcg_talk mailing list [email protected] http://ozdocit.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpcg_talk _______________________________________________ Gpcg_talk mailing list [email protected] http://ozdocit.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpcg_talk
