On Saturday 13 May 2006 06:33, Ian Cheong wrote: > At 7:06 am +1000 12/5/06, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > >On Friday 12 May 2006 00:19, Ian Cheong wrote: > >> Convention???? > >> > >> So is your RJ45 wired to T568A or T568B?? > >> > >> In Australia, one should have a data licence to wire RJ45 > >> plugs/sockets. They will be wired according to International and > >> Australian Standards, which reference the TIA/EIA standard. > >> > >> RJ45 hardware must be Austel approved, as is all hardware that is > >> connected (wired or wireless) to the telephone system. > >> > >> I'm sure we could find the relevant legislation if you like! > > > >As jh pointed out, I have all the information. > >We do have the copy of those standards here but it isn't *legislated* and > > you do find people who think they can *improve* on the system. > > > >However, it's not Austel any more, it goes through ACA now. > > ACA also gone, ACMA now: > http://www.acma.gov.au/acmainter > > Legislation talks about: > A. approved devices > The Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) is empowered > via the Telecommunications and Radiocommunications Acts to mandate > technical standards relating to items of customer equipment, customer > cabling and specified devices. > > B. approved installers > TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT 1997 - SECT 420 > Prohibition of unauthorised cabling work > (1) A person must not perform a particular type of > cabling work unless: > (a) the person is subject to the cabling > provider rules; or > (b) the person performs the work under the > supervision of another person who is subject to the cabling provider > rules; or > (c) the person is the holder of a cabling > licence that authorises the performance of that type of cabling work; > or > (d) the person performs the work under the > supervision of the holder of a cabling licence that authorises the > performance of that type of cabling work. > (2) A person who contravenes subsection (1) is guilty > of an offence punishable on conviction by a fine not exceeding 120 > penalty units. > > Approved equipment and cablers are required to conform with standards. > > Standards portal: > http://www.tsp.standards.org.au/ > > > So where is the loophole where one can legally not use a standard???? > > > Ian : )
Let's get this straight. We are talking about the necessity or otherwise for standards to be legislated to have effect, with especial relevance to the transmission of medical data between medical providers, so that they can automatically insert it into their EHRs. Now Ian said it was necessary to legislate for any standard to be taken up. Horst and I do not agree. Horst's list of examples was passed over, therefore it is agreed upon. None of them were the subject of legislation. Already the case is proven. I said that you could plug your RJ45 cable into any plug worldwide and expect it to work. Ian has merely concentrated on the Australian picture. He is not absolutely correct. Australia is a signatory to the international convention accepting those standards. The cabling rules state that the Australian wiring rules shall be used. They concentrate on the safety aspects and on not causing any damage to the carrier network (ie Telstra's). They don't specify the termination of the final bit of blue cable. The cabling rules stop at that point. But my original statement was worldwide, and not all countries are signatories, but you would still expect that your cable would work in the local socket. I also noted that I had legal equipment used in Australia which didn't use an Australian 3 pin plug. Two standards, little difficulty in coping with the effect but they are quite incompatible. Ian just seemed to want the last word, so I await the next installment. Liz -- Your reasoning powers are good, and you are a fairly good planner. _______________________________________________ Gpcg_talk mailing list [email protected] http://ozdocit.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpcg_talk
