But why couldnt the practice identify its own patients?
I dont see the need to take data out of the practice, analyse it, and then feed it back. What is the purpose? It starts to sound like a system of GP behaviour control - this is what concerns me. Why not use the data for public health and research, rather than behaviour management and cost control? The value of a large dataset will be in data mining for "nonintuitive" correlations - ie those that are not obvious. It could potentially provide a post marketing surveillance system for adverse drug reactions for example. No such system exists now - eg connect hospital admission diagnoses to drug prescribing

R

Greg Twyford wrote:

Andrew Patterson wrote:

Once again, I think this discussion about de-identified data needs to be
watched closely. in many respcets it can't be useful to GPs if it is
de-identified, including to source, and even if the GP is identified,
he'll want to know who the problem patients are. The Adelaide West atlas
doesn't use de-identified data.


Greg, as I understand it, the data that the Atlas uses for its
funky graphs and maps is definately de-identified (from
a patient perspective).
Obviously the source is not de-identified - but that is
because each Atlas is done for a particular GP practice and
hence there is no doubt as to where the data came from!


Andrew,

So if the GP wanted to identify his non-compliant diabetics as a group, the atlas wouldn't help? I must confess that I thought, based on the published information about the atlas.

The following is an extract from information about it, which suggests the sort of thing I've had in mind:

?Identifying diabetic patient cohorts (+/-co-morbidities)?


Exploring how a practice identifies and manages these patients

ie. Diagnosis coding, disease registers, outcome indicators


A GP can't search MD for patients with HbA1C > 7 and other relevant measures. This is one thing we do with the identified data we hold in Argus.

As I said, too, I feel that identifying data by GP and sending it to Canberra won't be acceptable to many GPs. Adelaide Western hasn't taken the data beyond themselves.

Greg
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