On Thursday 21 September 2006 18:34, Tim Churches wrote:
>> After toying around during sleepless nights between call-outs I think I 
>> have  found the future platform for an EHR system:
>> http://rubyonrails.org/

> Kuangie came to the same conclusion, I believe. 

I must have missed it. Obviously, he is right. As often, it seems he sees the 
light long before any of us.

> Yup. However, those whose opinions I trust tell me that if you want to
> use one of these new Web app frameworks, then either Turbogears (see
> http://www.turbogears.org/ ) or Django (see
> http://www.djangoproject.com/ ) are better choices that RoR, not just
> because both are written in and programmed in Python, but because both
> allow more flexibility with respect to back-end schemas etc. Guido van
> Rossum, the Python Benign Dictator for Life, has given Django his
> personal thumbs up, but both are good.

Neither Django nor Turbogears have any worthwhile Ajax feature integration - 
but that's the whole point ofthat framework - to make web apps feel as 
repsonsive as desktop apps WITHOUT having to go through installation + 
configuration + coding / browser copatibility nightmare ususally involved in  
Ajax

(well, Turbogears has a "little" Ajax features, but in non-Pythonic form, and 
the whole framework is still in beta stage).

The only reason why I didn't look closer at Rails before was my bias towards 
Python (heared about Rails, looked whether something similar was available in 
Python, found Django, enthused about much better performance in tests 
compared to Rails, then disappointed b/o too many missing features and not 
enough documentation)

In any case, compared to Rails,  Django and Turbogears look rather clumsy, but 
that might just be my personal aesthetics. Guido van Rossum is a true genius, 
but that does not mean that he is always right.

Yes, Rails involving learing a bit more initially (Ruby is not all that 
different from Python anyway) but comes with absolutely fantastic 
documentation, is better tested, more feature complete, and has a zillion of 
already implemented and tested add-ons that the Python or PHP  based web app 
frameworks simply don't have

This weekend I will spend trying to do something with Rails I think. If 
nothing else, I'll have great fun and it is easy enough to make it a family 
activity with my older kids. Other than that, it gives me yet another excuse 
to learn Japanese and look forward to my Japan trip next year.

Horst
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