Tim Churches wrote:
> David "Stratton" Guest wrote:
>   
>> I'll give the movie four stars.
>>     
> But what did Margaret think of it?
>   
We'll have to wait and see. More importantly, Tim, what did you think of
it ?

Both Django and Rails look impressive. Having a basic understanding of
python, I thought Django might be the thing for me but Ruby code reads
cleanly and as Hansson noted even designers could have a go at doing
some basic tweaking.

Hansson himself is very impressive. I think what he has done
encapsulates what is necessary for a successful open source project. He
is smart, articulate, well versed in his field and has a pretty good
idea of where he is going. In an even older movie
(http://media.rubyonrails.org/video/rubyonrails.mov) he describes what
he wanted to do in BaseCamp. His goal was to make the simplest thing
possible that would work and then make it even simpler. This
minimalistic framework allowed maximum flexibility and is perhaps
something that gnumed and other open source medical projects could take
on board.

I was absent last week when everybody was pounding the keyboards but to
me the state of play is that a new project as suggested by Tony E, would
have to be open sourced. A proprietary project will almost certainly not
succeed since its priorities must become the same as those of commercial
parties and hence we will be denied access to the components needed to
do the things we want. More importantly the new project needs a clear
vision of what is to be achieved. It needs a leader who can articulate
that. I agree that Horst is not that man and Ian also has many other
commitments. I think therefore at this stage we are stuck. Perhaps while
we are waiting around for a solution we can assist Ian in defining the
minimum requirements for a medical program suitable for an Australian GP
surgery (and perhaps then tossing out a few). Where's your wiki for that
again Ian?

> that may have pay-offs later). I personally prefer the Django and
> Turbogears approaches of defining classes for data objects, rather than
> flat or relational database tables - it seems like a more modern and
> flexible.
>   
But doesn't Rails actually generate the classes from the database (or
perhaps) vice versa? The aim is to avoid doing the same work twice.

> The real test will be embellishing the generated scaffolding code - and
> that is to come as time permits.
>   
Bloody time. There should be more of it.

David

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